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    • #39816
      Elizabeth
      Student

        When making a tincture blend, I am trying to understand how it works. For example, say I want to take a full dose of burdock tincture and a full dose of turmeric tincture each day, can I make a single tincture blend? How would you change the dosage? or is it better to make separate tinctures and blend them afterwards? If you were to take a blend, wouldn’t you get a half dose of each herb instead of a full dose? Does that make sense?

      • #39844
        Lisabeth Severin
        Student

          This is what I think. So if you made a full strength tincture of each herb and then blended equal portions of them together in one jar…lets call them Herbal Tincture A and Herbal Tincture B…full dose of each herbal tincture would have to be equal for this to work. So say that full dose of Herbal Tincture A is one-half teaspoon and full dose of Herbal Tincture B is one-half teaspoon. The full dose of your formula (Herbal Tincture A + B) would be one whole teaspoon.

          I don’t think that would work, however, if the full dose of Herbal Tincture A is one whole teaspoon and the full dose of Herbal Tincture B is one-half teaspoon…because the blend would be wrong if you are mixing equal parts of each tincture up in your Formula jar. So…maybe in this case…you could mix your formula in your jar: 2 parts of Herbal Tincture B to 1 part of Herbal Tincture  A.

          I’m just guessing here…I’m a beginner to tincture making myself.

          I wonder if you are using different alcohol proofs for different herbs how that complicates things?

        • #39848
          Jodie Hummel
          Student

            I’m totally willing to be wrong, but I’m thinking this (using ratio method here).

            Tincture 1 is 1:5 mark to menstruum (herb to alcohol), and let’s say you have 1 oz and you’re taking 1/2 tsp

            Tincture 2 is 1:5 and you have 1 oz and you’re taking 1/2 tsp

            Put them together and you  have 2 parts herb to 10 parts alcohol within 2 ounces, because 1 part is herb A, 1 part is herb B, and the rest is alcohol.

            Reduce that (see, fractions are used later in life) and you are back to 1:5 herb to alcohol within 2 ounces (because the ratio of 2:10 is the same as the ratio of 1:5), but now that new 1 part consists of a combo of 2 herbs.  Make sense?  The potency isn’t affected and nothing disappeared (unless you spill like I do), so you take the same amount you have before, which was 1/2 tsp of each, or 1 tsp of the two put together.  Combining them would just provide convenience in this case.

            It would be the same if you tinctured those two herbs together…you could put 1 part herb A and 1 part herb B.  You’d use the same amount of herb as in the single herb tincture, but because you have 2 parts herb, you’ll need 10 parts alcohol to get the 1:5 ratio.  See the same thing happening?

            I know some herbs are synergistic and 1+1=3, but I wouldn’t attempt to guess how the synergy affects the potency, and I don’t know what all herbs do that.  That’s for smart guys like Doc.

            And don’t feel badly about asking…I had to work that one out on paper (Imma nerd) and that’s what made sense to me!  HTH!

             

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            • #39853
              Elizabeth
              Student
              Topic Author

                So glad there are other nerds out there. I am trying to be general so no one thinks I am asking for medical advice but for instance, if I am taking a burdock tincture which is 1:5 and then I am also taking a turmeric tincture, I usually just take a dose of each so I get the full dosage of each herb. Now I am trying to understand if it would be better to just make a blend and how to go about it since I really do want a full dose of each.

                The even longer question about some of these is if you want certain herbs at what point are people actually taking 3 or 4 tinctures and suddenly someone is taking an awful lot of vodka multiple times a day…

            • #40365
              Dr. Patrick Jones
              Homestead Instructor

                So, on the first question, mixing tinctures that have already been made can sometimes end badly because some herbs contain high levels of tannins and some contain high levels of alkaloids. When you mix those two chemicals, you get something very like Elmer’s glue. There is a list in the Tincture medicine making lesson. See slides 34 & 35

                Making Herbal Medicines: Lesson 1 – Introduction and General Principles

                As to the dosing question, When I dose a formula tincture, I typically dose it very similarly to what I would do for a single herb. The formula seems to have a synergistic effect that makes it more like single new plant than several combined and a regular 1/2 to 1 tsp dose tends to do the trick.

                On the alcohol question, If you want to blend two tinctures with two different proofs of alcohol, it won’ affect the medicine at all. The only reason we use different proofs of alcohol for different plants is for the extraction requirements. Once the extraction has happened alcohol’s role is merely preservative and any thing 80 proof or higher will be just fine.

                Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                • #40436
                  Greg Boggs
                  Student

                    So if mixing those two tinctures would create something similar to glue, would that same interaction happen if you took those two tinctures internally one right after the other? Or do they require time to sit and meld before something like that were to happen?

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                  • #41135
                    Karen
                    Student

                      tincturing question/clarification—   the Herbs last longer if tinctured, but according to the black pepper video, it must be used fresh because it goes rancid so quickly?  I am interested in making a small vial of tumeric tincture to take on a trip. But, what to do about the black pepper? Can I grind it fresh into the alcohol while I am making the tincture? Will this preserve it or do I need to find a small pepper grinder that I can take on my trip with me?

                      • #41404
                        Dr. Patrick Jones
                        Homestead Instructor

                          If you tincture the pepper immediately after grinding, it will be good. Sitting around in the air is what weakens it. It likes sloshing around in hooch. :0)

                          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                    • #63118
                      Sharon
                      Student

                        Reposting Greg’s question from above in case others missed it.

                        “So if mixing those two tinctures would create something similar to glue, would that same interaction happen if you took those two tinctures internally one right after the other? Or do they require time to sit and meld before something like that were to happen?”

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