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    • #40942
      Merissa
      Student

        One of my adopted hens has been sneezing and breathing with her mouth open for four days now. Hens are confined in a coop with a small run. She is walking around but rests a lot, eating (Scratch & Peck organic pellets and fresh salads/herbs that I prepare) and has access to clean water via a gravity fed waterer. Our neighbor who also has chickens has a chicken with the same issue, I can hear it daily.

        The other day my uncle who has game birds came by and injected her with a dose of Tylan 5o in her breast. The scary part is that he reused a dirty needle that he uses on his own chickens which was not sterilized…ugh! I don’t want to be using pharmaceuticals unless absolutely necessary as she is an egg layer.

        Any herbal advice to help with her respiratory condition? I am separating her from the flock asap.

        Advice to get the Tylan 50 out of her system? I’m assuming the Tylan will end up in her eggs.

        Thank you so much for your time and assistance.

        With Aloha, Merissa🐚🌺

      • #40962
        Crystal Graham
        Student

          Some sneezing is just that, sneezing, and can be caused when we feed dry feed and then add in the dust from the summer, it could just be dust.  Where I am at, it has been extremely hot which will make them mouth breathe.  You could wet the food or ferment it to cut down on the dust.  They seem to love it anyway.  I never treat for just a sneeze.  You also stated, she is adopted; is she old?  Are there any other symptoms?  I do treat my flock with herbs but before I give any suggestions I just wanted to check if there were any other symptoms.

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          • #40966
            Merissa
            Student
            Topic Author

              Thank you Crystal for the reply. I do not know the age of the hens. I adopted the hens after a family friend passed away suddenly this year. What I can see from observing is that she has a smaller comb and wattle then the rest of the flock, she is lower on the pecking order as everyone pushes her to the side and warning pecks at her while eating, her body size under her feathers feels smaller then the rest of the hens. She is now constantly breathing with her mouth open. I do see her eating with the other hens.

              Shelter: coop with nesting box and perches with attached run situated underneath a large shaded tree. Sun directly into coop is only for a few hours before noon, then the sun is blocked out by the tree canopy. Floor is dirt with small pebbles which chickens have scratched up and yes it’s dusty because of that. I try to spread dried hemp nesting material on the ground from Rent-A-Coop to cover the dirt and try to remove dried poop from the run to spread around plants and compost pile. I don’t let the hens roam because one of the neighbors has dogs which attack chickens and animals in general also because stray chickens also come into the yard and don’t want the hens to follow them off the property.

              Inside of the coop which is raised above the ground, I’ve spread hemp bedding sprinkled with organic lavender, thyme, rosemary, and bay leaves. Nesting box has coconut fiber sprinkled with nesting box herbs.

              Run outside has a dusting bath area with a mix of play sand, diatomaceous earth, hardwood ash.

              Temperatures in Hawaii are in the 80’s. Sunny with occasional rain.

              In addition to their Scratch & Peck pellets I supplement with fermented organic grains which they get daily in a salad which I spread out in a trough. Here are some of the ingredients that change daily depending on availability…wish I could post photos here.

              Example supplemental salad ingredients:

              Organic fermented: kamut, oat groats, green split peas, millet, raw pumpkin seeds, wheat berries, whole yellow corn

              Organic spring mix greens

              Organic Dave’s Killer 21 Whole Grains bread

              Organic apples diced with Ceylon cinnamon sprinkled on apples

              Organic sprouted lentils, adzuki, and others on rotation

              Organic cucumbers diced

              Organic minced ginger

              Non-gmo black soldier fly larvae

              Herb sprinkled onto salad containing a mixture of: kelp, thyme, chickweed, calendula, chili pepper flakes, etc

              Water: filtered by Clearly Filtered pitcher which I wait til room temperature then fill their gravity waterer with. I’ve been adding organic raw apple cider vinegar to their water at 1 tbs per gallon.

              Free feed: oyster shell flakes and small grits are always accessible in open feeders.

              Recently added an additional small gravity waterer with poultry Nutri-Drench after reading about lots of chicken owners adding it to their water when chickens are ill.

              I am trying to get this hen in question to another separate shelter and see how she does in less dusty ground and some peace and quiet away from the more lively hens.

              My cats have a holistic veterinarian that has his own small private practice at his residence. He does not do emergencies nor will take in patients with respiratory issues unfortunately. I live on a small island with a shortage of medical doctors of all fields including veterinarians. I’m hoping to self treat her with herbs and do what I can to make her situation better. All advice and assistance is appreciated. Thank you so much! 🐓🌺💗

              With Aloha, Merissa🐚🌺

            • #41131
              Merissa
              Student
              Topic Author

                Hi Crystal, took the sneezing hen to the vet and after a radiograph found that she had a respiratory infection 🤧 Poor bird! Will do what it takes for her to recover. Thank you again for your reply and hope your chickens are well.

                With Aloha, Merissa🐚🌺

            • #41130
              Merissa
              Student
              Topic Author

                Update on my sneezing hen 8/11/2023: Took her to a veterinary clinic where they ran all sorts of tests on her…and a pretty bill too 😳 . Found that she had a respiratory infection. The doctor prescribed an antibiotic and an inflammatory medication. I asked her how long before the meds leave her system so eggs will be safe for consumption and was told to wait a month after medication is finished.

                Hen is now in her own enclosure away from the rest of the flock where she can rest away from the bossy hens and recover.

                I am wondering if using herbs during antibiotics will speed up healing? Will be trying to fill her up with probiotics, adding garlic, and oregano. Hopefully it won’t interfere with the prescribed meds? Things I need to learn about.

                With Aloha, Merissa🐚🌺

              • #43278
                Laura.overlin
                Student

                  We’ve found that when our chickens have sneezing/runny noses, separating the sick one and putting a pinch of bug buster formula on their feed once a day works pretty well. Of course, if we treat it as soon as we notice it, the results are better.

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                • #49438
                  Dr. Patrick Jones
                  Homestead Instructor

                    For respiratory infections In poultry I do the same things I do with humans.

                    use Immunity Support, INFXN-BugBuster and Shoo-Floo powders mixed with the feed.

                    Have a look at the respiratory lessons. Same is true for other species.

                    Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                  • #49442
                    Elizabeth
                    Student

                      We use this formula on our chickens and it really works well. You put this formula around the chicken’s nostrils and on the roof of it’s mouth. It’s the natural version of vics vaporub for chickens. I included the link below :

                      Oh, what peace we often forfeit, Oh, what needless pain we bear,
                      All because we do not carry, everything to God in prayer!

                    • #49444
                      Elizabeth
                      Student

                        The link isn’t working for me to send so you can just type in vetrx on Amazon and you should be able to find it.

                         

                        Oh, what peace we often forfeit, Oh, what needless pain we bear,
                        All because we do not carry, everything to God in prayer!

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