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      VIRGINIA HALL
      Student

        Problems:

        How long are they good past the use by date? My vet said 1-2 years past use by for tetracycline

        Can any of them be frozen or freeze dried? Like penicillin?

        Ampicillin for oral use comes as a powder–how long will it last?

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      • #46546
        Dan Flowers
        Student

          Try and find what’s called the shelf life extension programme on a search engine.  Basically the military wanted the answer to this too so they conducted a study and figured out that under optimum storage conditions almost all the drugs were about 95% potent at 10 years past expired date.  One exception was Tetracycline as I remember.  Weird things happen to it past expired.  It’s a hard document to find because the Gov is scrubbing it out of existence on the internet. Hope this helps.

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          • #46684
            Jean
            Student

              Try using “swisscows” for a search engine.  I found the doc. there.  I can give the url for the pfd if allowable.

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          • #46681
            Jean
            Student

              I have heard that freezing helps a lot.  I guess you’d have to make sure that the product in question could be frozen in the first place.

              • #46695
                Tina Cook
                Student

                  I’m curious about freeze drying herbs. I know freeze drying maintains almost 100 percent of the nutrients in food. I will research more on freeze drying and if there is a benefit to freeze dry herbs for medicine.

                  Tina Cook

                  • #46700
                    Jean
                    Student

                      Hi Tina, Yes, you can freeze dry herbs.  I think freeze dryers take 24 hours to go through their cycle.  They are not quite machines.  I also believe that you have to have the room at 70 degree’s for optimal performance.  But, dont quote me on that.  In other words, the machine being big and kind of loud will not work out in a shed during the winter months.

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                      • #46701
                        Jean
                        Student

                          And yes it is worth it . . . however . . . I would need a LOT of Doctor Jones’s General Stress Tonic for a long time for me to go that route.

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                            Jean
                            Student

                              You Go Girl!

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                          • #46707
                            Tina Cook
                            Student

                              Hi, Jean. Thank you for your response. I actually own a freeze dryer by Harvest Right. My husband and I have freeze dried many things with success like our organic tomato soup, wild meat, organic fruit, etc. with great success. I belong to a few freeze-drying groups and I’m very intrigued by what people/companies are producing with their freeze dryers. One company freeze dries flowers and that’s what got me thinking about herbs for medicinal purposes. Like Doc wrote in his post, he wasn’t sure how long the freeze drying holds the plants medicinal qualities. I will continue to research and if I discover anything I will post here in our forum.

                              BTW – the harvest right unit is not loud at all. We do have it in our shop which is in a controlled heat environment. I would never have it in my house. You need space for the unit and packaging. We love it!

                              Tina Cook

                              • #46710
                                Jean
                                Student

                                  Hi Tina, Yeah, I would not want it in the house either. I am not sure if I saw the post with Doc commenting on freezer dryers.  There is an herbalist down south who is freeze drying lots of her herbs now and the way she talks, I think she believes that the medicinal qualities remain intact. The last time I viewed one of her video’s online, she was experimenting with freeze drying seeds.  She wanted to see if they would still grow after being freeze dried.  I imagine they would still grow.  Pretty impressive.

                                  • #48468
                                    Sharon
                                    Student

                                      We know someone who has their Harvest Right in their living/dining room as they have a small house.  The sound isn’t bad (we’ve heard it), and they use 2 computer fans on it – one at the air intake, and the other blowing on the pump.  This serves two purposes: the intake side – this keeps it running just fine in a warmer room without the “warm room warning” – they found the sweet spot for fan placement rather by accident they said.  And two, the one on the pump keeps the room from getting warmer from the pump, but more importantly, it keeps the pump much cooler (like from 160 degrees down to 115 degrees) which will extend the life of the pump much longer.  I think it’s definitely something well worth considering.

                          • #46735
                            Jean
                            Student

                              Virginia,  I know that I can freeze thyroid products.  Right now I do not recall where I got the info from.  It should be “out there” somewhere.  I would try to find it.  Next time I will try to note the source instead trying to remember. Way too many docu-series have gone through my head.

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