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May 15, 2024 at 6:02 PM #53760
SUZANNE
StudentHello all,
I live in East Texas and have thousands of Loblolly Pine trees on my property. I would like to use them to make pine needle tinctures. I have heard, from those who don’t have experience in this field, that these types of pines shouldn’t be used, but I don’t know what is true or not.
I just finished watching Doc’s lesson on Pine trees.
Under Similar Species on page 21 of the red pine monograph it states:
“This list is not comprehensive, as many lesser-known species of pine also have similar historical use and medicinal
properties. Although some of these species share similarities with Pinus resinosa, their unique properties, efficacy and safety margins may vary. It is beyond the scope of this lesson to discuss all of them in-depth. Therefore, it is important to thoroughly study these trees and consult a qualified healthcare practitioner before using them.”
Unfortunately, Loblolly Pine is not listed in his monograph. So I watched his videos on Pines.
In the Pine Needle vs Respiratory Bugs quick herbal overview video he states that it doesn’t matter much what kind of pine is used since they are all about the same medicinally. He said he would use any kind of pine and feel good about it. I am not sure how old that video is and if new research has come to light regarding using any type of pine.
I know he is an expert regarding these things, but I would like some feed back from any of you or him as to using Loblolly Pine. I don’t know any qualified healthcare providers that would know anything about using Loblolly Pine to make tinctures. There is so much misleading info on the internet regarding this and I wanted some of you who might have first hand knowledge or are qualified to give true and accurate information about these trees.
Thank you for any and all replies.
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November 8, 2024 at 3:44 PM #58620
SUZANNE
StudentTopic AuthorHello All,
I am still wondering about this question I submitted back in May 2024. I am trying to get it to the top so maybe someone might have some information for me.
Maybe Doc is available to answer this or can tell me where to look for answers.
Thank you for all replies.
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November 13, 2024 at 9:17 AM #58703
Melody Dobb
StudentI am also interested as I live in Northern Canada and we have alot of lodgepole pine – I have heard that that you should not use lodgepole pine as it is too toxic ?
I would like some information regarding the Lodgepole pine as well as the Loblolly Pine – Suzanne
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January 3, 2025 at 1:43 AM #60377
Heidi
StudentI am wondering about this also….has anyone responded with information?
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January 3, 2025 at 11:17 AM #60379
foajmani
StudentLoblolly Pine (Pinus taeda) is commonly found in East Texas and is rich in pine needles, which are often used in herbal preparations. However, there is conflicting information about its safety for use in tinctures, primarily because some types of pine contain compounds that may not be suitable for ingestion. While Loblolly Pine is not generally considered toxic, its chemical composition hasn’t been extensively studied for medicinal use compared to species like Eastern White Pine or Scots Pine.
To determine if Loblolly Pine needles are safe for tincture-making:
Consult a Professional Herbalist: A qualified herbalist can provide insight based on experience and scientific knowledge.
Research Its Properties: Look into studies or traditional uses of Loblolly Pine for medicinal purposes.
Conduct Tests: Small-scale tinctures can be tested for non-ingestive uses like topical applications, starting cautiously.
Consider Safer Alternatives: If safety is uncertain, you might consider using another type of pine with proven medicinal uses.
You can see this in a new way you can compare its properties with different herbs and Plant maybe you can find your answer.
Loblolly Pine (Pinus taeda) can be loosely compared to herbs that are valued for their resinous, aromatic properties and potential medicinal benefits, such as rosemary or eucalyptus. Here’s how they compare:
Similarities with Common Herbs.
Aromatic Qualities: Like rosemary, Loblolly Pine needles contain volatile oils, giving them a strong, pleasant scent. These oils may have antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory properties.
Respiratory Support: Similar to eucalyptus, pine needles are often associated with respiratory health, as their aroma can help clear airways and soothe the respiratory system.
Rich in Vitamin C: Some pines (like Eastern White Pine) are known for their vitamin C content, a trait shared with other natural sources like rose hips or citrus fruits. Loblolly Pine may have similar benefits, though it’s less studied.
Differences from Common Herbs
Lesser Known for Medicinal Use: Unlike widely studied herbs like rosemary or eucalyptus, Loblolly Pine is not a common choice for herbal remedies, making its safety and effectiveness less certain.
Preparation Variability: Herbs like rosemary are commonly used in culinary and medicinal contexts, while Loblolly Pine is primarily known for its industrial and ecological roles.
Practical Comparison
If you’re interested in experimenting, consider researching Eastern White Pine or Scots Pine for better-documented herbal uses. For culinary herbs, rosemary may serve as a safer and well-understood alternative for certain aromatic and health-related applications.
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December 21, 2024 at 10:45 AM #59765
SarahBec
StudentI would like to know about loblolly pines as well, since that’s what I have available!
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December 21, 2024 at 1:58 PM #59769
Laura L. Bergeson
StudentAs far as using any and all pines, our area has many Ponderosa Pines. Old timers say that the needles are toxic to animals and people, so I would trust that.
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