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    • #53967
      Harmony
      Student

        I’m dealing with and 88 year old women who has been on Vicoden for 25 years for severe back pain. Due to medical-system snafus, she is unable to get her prescription, maybe for 3 months. I’m not sure what to suggest to her, if anything. The pain relieving herbs that I know are more gentle, and I’m unsure about pharma interactions should the opioid still be in her system. Ideas?

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      • #53996
        Dr. Patrick Jones
        Homestead Instructor

          Topical tinctures won’t interact with pharmaceuticals at a significant level.

          For back pain, nervines (like hops, skullcap, etc…) antispasmodics (cramp bark) topically are often great. Have a look at the Pain Management lessons (Especially #1 & #3)for some good specifics.

          Pain Management I: Anatomy, Physiology & Herbal Interventions

          Pain Management III: Specific Interventions

          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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          • #69631
            Mary Thelen
            Student

              Would hops tea work topically too if you needed pain relief on open wounds? My husband is dealing with severe whole body eczema and his skin is so raw. I just harvested the hops and plan to make a tincture, but would like to have it sooner. We are also treating internally with herbs for the liver/anti histamines. Thanks so much!

              • #69676
                Dee.MW
                Student

                  Oh that sounds painful!  Hops tea is worth a try, or chamomile for nerve pain.  Oak, sage or echinacea to dry raw skin.  Plantain, marshmallow root, or aloe would soothe.  Try a very strong brew of any of these herbs for a bath or soaking cloths.

                  You said you are treating the liver internally which may be pushing the gas pedal harder as the liver sends more work to the skin.  It’s sometimes called a healing crisis – eczema could be caused by the healing, not the original issue to address.  You mentioned histamines, if allergies are involved maybe try to get ahead of the liver with herbs like nettle and eyebright.  Doc has formulas to help cool the immune response before it flares into a big problem for the liver to clean up.

            • #54501
              Terri Peters
              Student

                Were you able to figure out something?  I have a 60 year old sister who has severe pain from osteoarthritis and trauma to her upper back x 20 years ago that is transitioning from hydrocodone to suboxone with her pain management practitioner.  She would like to try herbal interventions; I am still in beginning lessons of course and can’t suggest anything yet. Topicals sound like an excellent possibility.

                 

                 

                 

                 

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              • #69703
                Cherie Jaques
                Student

                  I am working in SE Alaska and Devil’s Club grows here.  There are many salves on the island made from it and I have found it to be very good for relieving arthritis pain.  Has anyone tried Devil’s Club tincture for pain?

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