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      Jonathan Levine
      Student

        So I’m trying to physically make the tincture for Yarrow (achillea millefolium).  I’m using a 1:5 ratio.

        • I measured out 16 grams of yarrow herb
        • Put in the bottom of a widemouth pint canning jar
        • Measured out 80 ml of Vodka, 40%abv.  I also weighed that amount and it was close enough for jazz)
        • Added the vodka to the jar
        • I laughed.  Wasn’t even close enough to hydrate the yarrow. Let alone get a layer of menstrual above or below the jar.
        • I added enough to get a 1/2″ under the floating herb.  It ended up being 71ml, I rounded up to 80ml added to the jar.

        This turned a planned 1:5 tincture into a 1:10 tincture.  I could try to do the math and see if a different shape jar would make it any better, but I don’t think it will.

        Anyone else have this problem?  Any solutions?  Have I made a G.C.E. (gross conceptual error as one of my professors used to say) in understanding how to actually make a tincture using the ratio method?  I guess I could try to pack or tamp the herb down, but I’m sure it will swell back up.

        I’d appreciate any thoughts on this.

         

      • #54585
        Greg Boggs
        Student

          Oh yeah all the time, in fact, I’ve only gotten a 1:5 ratio on a couple of my tinctures, most of them go over. What I do is put the jar on the scale and tare it, then add the herbs and write that down and then tare the scale again, take the number and multiply by 5 and just start pouring in until I hit that number. At that point, if the herbs are covered, then cool I’m good to go. If they aren’t then I add more slowly until they are covered and record that weight and figure out what the ratio is and write it down. Some herbs you are never going to get a 1:5 ratio on, they are just too thirsty.

          Also, remember that the folk method is a viable method of tincturing, but the ratio is nice because you can get a consistent product. You want to make sure the herbs are all covered by the vodka, the 1:5 is not a hard and fast rule, more of just something to shoot for.

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          Jonathan Levine
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            Thank you gboggs!

            I’ve done some with the folk method to, as a physicist and engineer I tend to gravitate towards the more fiddly bits methods. Keeping notes, evaluating moisture content in fresh, dried, and freeze dried.
            Glad to hear my herbs aren’t ‘over dried’.
            cheers.

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          • #54593
            Donna Burchett
            Student

              Thank you for this post. I just started and am nervous with making tinctures. This will help.

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