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    • #23722
      JENNIFER COATS
      Student

        Doc, you said you make client tinctures 1 to 5 ratio. What ratio do you make for your own personal use?

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      • #23914
        Dr. Patrick Jones
        Homestead Instructor

          I’m my own client. So, 1:5 for most stuff.

          Though I’m thinking about getting a different herbalist because whenever I’m sick, my herbalist just wants to lay around and feel sorry for himself instead of getting up and getting me some herbs. It’s hard to get good help.

          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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          • #42796
            Sydnia Ginger Anady
            Student

              thanks so much for your humor… it really helps to remember much of the infromation

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          • #25673
            Sharon
            Student

              Sounds like you do need a new herbalist Doc – but good luck on finding such a personable one!!

              I have a request that I think many of us would really love.  Would you consider making a list of the various herbs and what ratio is “normal” or possible?  That way we’d know at a quick check that the tincture we’re about to make will not, or will work in the 1:5 ratio.  Hops as an example – had I known how thirsty it was before I started, I could have saved myself some mess and hassle by using a bigger jar and just planning on using more hooch.  It would be a wonderfully helpful thing I believe!  🙂

            • #25810
              Dee.MW
              Student

                After making some tinctures, I clearly see the benefit of using ground herbs, it really levels the playing field for those absorbent leaves, though thirsty is still thirsty.  And if the vodka soaks to the middle of a chunk of root, I can’t press that out.  I have a much better chance at pressing it out of ground matter.

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                • #26036
                  Dr. Patrick Jones
                  Homestead Instructor

                    Yup.

                    Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                  • #41784
                    Karen
                    Student

                      So, I am currently trying to tincture some hops. I processed them so they were fine, and used the 1:5 ratio and it ended up making a thick paste. So I added a bit more vodka so I could shake the jar.  It drank that up too. What do I do? How much vodka can I add? Do I then need to extend the time to tincture?

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                      • #44897
                        Dr. Patrick Jones
                        Homestead Instructor

                          Some herbs (especially hops and mullein) are thirstier. Adding more vodka doesn’t change the time at all.

                          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                    • #43201
                      Lisabeth Severin
                      Student

                        So, I am currently trying to tincture some hops. I processed them so they were fine, and used the 1:5 ratio and it ended up making a thick paste. So I added a bit more vodka so I could shake the jar.  It drank that up too. What do I do? How much vodka can I add? Do I then need to extend the time to tincture?

                        I’ve run into that problem too. I’ve measured out the next increment of alcohol and then slowly added that, then I label it “1:6”. However, there are times even that seems too thick.

                      • #43213
                        Lisabeth Severin
                        Student

                          Karen, re-watch the video for lesson 4, about 9 or 11 minutes into it he talks about some herbs just being thirstier than other ones, and so its okay to do a 1-to-6 ratio or a 1-to-7 ratio. He says we want our ground-up herbs to be moving in the alcohol, we don’t want a thick paste.

                          I think the confusion is stemming from the PDF for all the medicine-making lessons doesn’t have that particular info. So we need to be sure to always watch the video to add any additional info we think we might need.

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                          • #43223
                            Rachel Ewing
                            Student

                              Thanks for covering this. I am just starting the course! I look forward to everything. This datum of making sure the herb has enough room to move around is

                              so simple and straight forward it’s perfect.

                          • #44970
                            Sharon
                            Student

                              Is it safe to assume that IF an herb will play nice with a 1:4 ratio (my Cold Away specifically this time) that it would be even better since it would be a bit stronger?

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                              • #45054
                                Dr. Patrick Jones
                                Homestead Instructor

                                  Ratios only relate to dosing. So it isn’t “better” it’s just more concentrated and you could take a smaller dose.

                                  Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                              • #45190
                                Susan Bryg
                                Student

                                  Sounds like a really dumb question, but does the ratio refer to weight or to volume.

                                • #45206
                                  Lisa Bateman
                                  Student

                                    Weight.  I put the empty jar on a scale, tare it to zero, add herbs, let’s say 100g, tare it to zero, that add 5x that or 500g of vodka.

                                    Lisa Bateman

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                                    • #45217
                                      Susan Bryg
                                      Student

                                        Thank you, Lisa.  I thought that was it, but wasn’t sure.  I bought a Vitamix to powder everything and I already have a commercial kitchen scale.  It is amazing how much the volume of the herb is reduced when it is powdered.

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