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May 29, 2023 at 3:04 PM #39159
Diana
StudentHi Folks,
I’m not big on Antibiotics but they sure do help when you really need them. That being said, Animal Antibiotics will no longer be OTC (at the ranch stores), Does anyone have go to formulas or rules they follow to keep the animals healthy and happy and nip in the bud any problems or a book they recommend on natural animal husbandry?
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May 30, 2023 at 7:23 AM #39168
Sydney Alix
StudentGarlic is my go-to, but you need to be careful when using it in certain animals (like dogs-I primarily use it with goats). I usually like to combine it with a probiotic of some sort (derived from kefir, yogurt, or the like.), as well as a natural dewormer, since parasites (which are common in goats) are often a contributing factor and a huge drag on immune function. That said, my approach really all depends on what the issue is, and what species of animal I am working with.
A book that I would highly recommend and that I use all the time is Juliette de Baïracli Levy’s The Complete Herbal Handbook for Farm and Stable. I’ve had great success with the herbal protocols she describes.
I also like to find good books on the specific species of animals that I have, so that I can learn about the conditions they are susceptible to, and how to address them. It really helps if the author has a natural/integrative approach, and doesn’t just focus on using lots of drugs and treating symptoms.
Hope this helps!
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December 8, 2023 at 8:34 PM #45076
Alissa Atherly
StudentI had two pigs get really sick about a month ago. High fevers, cough, stopped eating and lethargic. I gave them Ivermectin, about 10 cloves of formented honey garlic, probiotic paste down their throat and powered in their water and essential oils for improved breathing. They were up eating, running around and no fever in 24 hours.
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June 4, 2023 at 3:09 PM #39420
Glenda
StudentHave you checked out Herb Pets for formulas? https://herbpet.com/
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September 24, 2023 at 2:09 PM #42458
Lisa Albillar
StudentWow! Just looked at the HerbalPets! Those are awesome to have on hand. Thanks for this!
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June 23, 2023 at 10:51 AM #39786
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorI use INFXN-BugBuster and Immunity Support in animals all the time. Works well for bacterial infections. If it’s viral, swap the bugbuster for shoo floo
Animal herbalism is more similar than it is different from human remedies. Dosing for animals is here:
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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September 23, 2023 at 11:21 AM #42441
SG
StudentI have a related question for cats. I have a rescued cat with chronic Feline Herpes. She has a lot of congestion with wheezing and runny eyes. The vet will give her a shot of antibiotic which she says lasts 2 weeks and it clears up until the 2 weeks is up and it immediately resurfaces. The vet is suggesting varying the antibiotic but I would like to try herbals. Is the Shoo Floo and Immunity Support safe for cats?
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November 19, 2023 at 1:02 PM #43915
Julianne Maldonado
StudentThanks for this question. We had the same one. We are currently raising pigs and wish to manage them with herbs, but it’s very hard to find any info for treating pigs with herbs. I’ve had some success with an herbal dewormer we concocted and a pain and joint formula for our sow when she got injured, but we are concerned about acute situations. Doc, would you administer the formulas you referenced above instead of penicillin or LA-200? Also, any tips for determining when it is a viral vs a bacterial infection? Thank you!
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December 8, 2023 at 8:38 PM #45077
Alissa Atherly
StudentI had two pigs get really sick about a month ago. High fevers, cough, stopped eating and lethargic. I gave them Ivermectin, about 10 cloves of formented honey garlic, probiotic paste down their throat and powder in their water along with essential oils for improved breathing. They were up eating, running around and no fever in 24 hours.
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November 29, 2023 at 4:51 PM #44459
Emily Hata
StudentThank you for creating this thread! We rarely use antibiotics if possible, but there are times when they are necessary. I’d be very interested in recommendations specific to a lactating milk cow. Thanks, everyone!
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December 27, 2023 at 11:54 AM #45797
Ron Thompson
StudentWhen it comes to antibiotics, there is one go to that I have used for decades now. Merely due to the fact that I can’t always find certain herbs or plants in all locations around the globe. So I ALWAYS take colloidal silver AND a way to make in the event I get caught in a rough spot for some reason.
We have given out critters (Dogs, Cats, Fish, Chickens, etc) silver and NEVER had any problems with it. As with most antibiotics, if possible, add some probiotics. It is very easy to make and safe if done properly. Other than this third arm growing out of the back of my neck, there hasn’t been ANY other side effects. (and the benefit is, NOW I can scratch my own back!!) Just Kidding. I hope that helps. Ron
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December 29, 2023 at 5:54 PM #45942
VIRGINIA HALL
StudentMy goto for infected wounds is a chamomile tea rinse to remove the pus and then strong yarrow tea. Before I knew anything about herbs, some of my sheep were torn up by dogs (gashes over 1″ deep and 8″ long). Of course they became infected. My vet recommended flushing them clean every day with water from the hose (lots of water) and then using a sulfa powder. I think he gave me tetracycline for injection also. It took several months, but they all healed up and recovered. So, my current regimen would be lots of water, then chamomile, then yarrow. If they were interested, I would feed them all the chamomile flowers and yarrow flowers and leaves that they wanted.
I had a cat that had a 1″ area of shredded skin over the bottom of his ear from an abscess. It would heal up and then re-abscess over and over. With three or four days of the two teas, it cleared completely and never came back. No scars.
Our family remedy for infected punctures was oatmeal boiled with salt super-saturated water, put on as hot as possible, wrapped up or covered with a sock. Go to bed. Look in the oatmeal in the morning to see what was in the wound originally. Most times, one night was enough. One time, I had to do it two nights in a row. Always worked.
Alternative: tetracycline is good for longer than the use-by (3-4 years), Penicillin for a long time too. Ampicillin that is a powder you add water to should last a while. Stockpile? Freeze? Freeze dry?
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February 3, 2024 at 8:02 PM #49733
Sharon
StudentVirginia, I’m collecting both herbal and non herbal “old time” remedies for “if” I don’t have any internet and have immediate needs. Could you elaborate on the boiled oatmeal method, times, amounts, etc? Also, with your chamomile tea rinse and then strong yarrow tea – how strong for either tea and how long do you steep them? Thanks!
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February 4, 2024 at 12:27 PM #49748
Brenda Music
StudentVirginia, I’m collecting both herbal and non herbal “old time” remedies for “if” I don’t have any internet and have immediate needs. Could you elaborate on the boiled oatmeal method, times, amounts, etc? Also, with your chamomile tea rinse and then strong yarrow tea – how strong for either tea and how long do you steep them? Thanks!
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