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    • #39159
      Diana
      Student

        Hi Folks,

        I’m not big on Antibiotics but they sure do help when you really need them.  That being said, Animal Antibiotics will no longer be OTC (at the ranch stores),  Does anyone have go to formulas or rules they follow to keep the animals healthy and happy and nip in the bud any problems or a book they recommend on natural animal husbandry?

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      • #39168
        Sydney Alix
        Student

          Garlic is my go-to, but you need to be careful when using it in certain animals (like dogs-I primarily use it with goats). I usually like to combine it with a probiotic of some sort (derived from kefir, yogurt, or the like.), as well as a natural dewormer, since parasites (which are common in goats) are often a contributing factor and a huge drag on immune function. That said, my approach really all depends on what the issue is, and what species of animal I am working with.

          A book that I would highly recommend and that I use all the time is Juliette de Baïracli Levy’s The Complete Herbal Handbook for Farm and Stable. I’ve had great success with the herbal protocols she describes.

          I also like to find good books on the specific species of animals that I have, so that I can learn about the conditions they are susceptible to, and how to address them. It really helps if the author has a natural/integrative approach, and doesn’t just focus on using lots of drugs and treating symptoms. 

          Hope this helps!

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          • #45076
            Alissa Atherly
            Student

              I had two pigs get really sick about a month ago. High fevers, cough, stopped eating and lethargic.  I gave them Ivermectin, about 10 cloves of formented honey garlic, probiotic paste down their throat and powered in their water and essential oils for improved breathing.  They were up eating, running around and no fever in 24 hours.

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          • #39420
            Glenda
            Student

              Have you checked out Herb Pets for formulas? https://herbpet.com/

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              • #42458
                Lisa Albillar
                Student

                  Wow!  Just looked at the HerbalPets!  Those are awesome to have on hand.  Thanks for this!

              • #39786
                Dr. Patrick Jones
                Homestead Instructor

                  I use INFXN-BugBuster and Immunity Support in animals all the time. Works well for bacterial infections. If it’s viral, swap the bugbuster for shoo floo

                  Animal herbalism is more similar than it is different from human remedies. Dosing for animals is here:

                  Herb Forms & Dosing

                  Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                • #42441
                  SG
                  Student

                    I have a related question for cats. I have a rescued cat with chronic Feline Herpes. She has a lot of congestion with wheezing and runny eyes. The vet will give her a shot of antibiotic which she says lasts 2 weeks and it clears up until the 2 weeks is up and it immediately resurfaces. The vet is suggesting varying the antibiotic but I would like to try herbals. Is the Shoo Floo and Immunity Support safe for cats?

                  • #43915
                    Julianne Maldonado
                    Student

                      Thanks for this question. We had the same one.  We are currently raising pigs and wish to manage them with herbs, but it’s very hard to find any info for treating pigs with herbs.  I’ve had some success with an herbal dewormer we concocted and a pain and joint formula for our sow when she got injured, but we are concerned about acute situations.  Doc, would you  administer the formulas you referenced above instead of penicillin or LA-200?  Also, any tips for determining when it is a viral vs a bacterial infection?   Thank you!

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                      • #45077
                        Alissa Atherly
                        Student

                          I had two pigs get really sick about a month ago. High fevers, cough, stopped eating and lethargic.  I gave them Ivermectin, about 10 cloves of formented honey garlic, probiotic paste down their throat and powder in their water along with essential oils for improved breathing.  They were up eating, running around and no fever in 24 hours.

                      • #44459
                        Emily Hata
                        Student

                          Thank you for creating this thread! We rarely use antibiotics if possible, but there are times when they are necessary. I’d be very interested in recommendations specific to a lactating milk cow. Thanks, everyone!

                        • #45797
                          Ron Thompson
                          Student

                            When it comes to antibiotics, there is one go to that I have used for decades now.  Merely due to the fact that I can’t always find certain herbs or plants in all locations around the globe.  So I ALWAYS take colloidal silver AND a way to make in the event I get caught in a rough spot for some reason.

                            We have given out critters (Dogs, Cats, Fish, Chickens, etc) silver and NEVER had any problems with it.  As with most antibiotics, if possible, add some probiotics.  It is very easy to make and safe if done properly.  Other than this third arm growing out of the back of my neck, there hasn’t been ANY other side effects. (and the benefit is, NOW I can scratch my own back!!) Just Kidding.  I hope that helps.    Ron

                          • #45942
                            VIRGINIA HALL
                            Student

                              My goto for infected wounds is a chamomile tea rinse to remove the pus and then strong yarrow tea.  Before I knew anything about herbs, some of my sheep were torn up by dogs  (gashes over 1″ deep and 8″ long).  Of course they became infected.  My vet recommended flushing them clean every day with water from the hose (lots of water) and then using a sulfa powder. I think he gave me tetracycline for injection also. It took several months, but they all healed up and recovered.  So, my current regimen would be lots of water, then chamomile, then yarrow.  If they were interested, I would feed them all the chamomile flowers and yarrow flowers and leaves that they wanted.

                              I had a cat that had a 1″ area of shredded skin over the bottom of his ear from an abscess.  It would heal up and then re-abscess over and over.  With three or four days of the two teas, it cleared completely and never came back. No scars.

                              Our family remedy for infected punctures was oatmeal boiled with salt super-saturated water, put on as hot as possible, wrapped up or covered with a sock.  Go to bed.  Look in the oatmeal in the morning to see what was in the wound originally.  Most times, one night was enough.  One time, I had to do it two nights in a row.  Always worked.

                              Alternative: tetracycline is good for longer than the use-by (3-4 years), Penicillin for a long time too. Ampicillin that is a powder you add water to should last a while. Stockpile?  Freeze? Freeze dry?

                              • #49733
                                Sharon
                                Student

                                  Virginia, I’m collecting both herbal and non herbal “old time” remedies for “if” I don’t have any internet and have immediate needs.  Could you elaborate on the boiled oatmeal method, times, amounts, etc?  Also, with your chamomile tea rinse and then strong yarrow tea – how strong for either tea and how long do you steep them?  Thanks!

                                • #49748
                                  Brenda Music
                                  Student

                                    Virginia, I’m collecting both herbal and non herbal “old time” remedies for “if” I don’t have any internet and have immediate needs.  Could you elaborate on the boiled oatmeal method, times, amounts, etc?  Also, with your chamomile tea rinse and then strong yarrow tea – how strong for either tea and how long do you steep them?  Thanks!

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