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July 12, 2015 at 4:32 AM #34705
Annett
StudentMy hollyhock leaves have loads of holes in them from ants or some other bug I still need to identify. Is there any concern in using leaves with holes from bugs or are they just holier than whole leaves?
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July 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM #34706
IdahoHerbalist
As long as they are not covered in bug feces or other contaminants they should be OK. You just need to make sure that the plant is not being attacked because it is diseased or weak for some reason. Is it the only plant or is it the only plant in a stand that is being attacked?
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July 13, 2015 at 5:24 AM #34710
Annett
StudentTopic AuthorAll my hollyhocks have been attacked.
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July 13, 2015 at 12:39 PM #34712
IdahoHerbalist
That is still not a for sure sign of plant issues. It is a sign that something really likes the plants though… and that they are not attacking something else!!!!! :yahoo:
You will need to look into it further and decide if they are good enough for your own personal use. If they are in flower it is probably not the best time to harvest, except for the flowers, anyway.
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July 14, 2015 at 2:30 PM #34715
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorBugs need medicine too.
🙂 As long as the remaining tissue looks healthy and vibrant, I don’t worry about a few nibble marks.
Doc
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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July 15, 2015 at 4:12 AM #34722
IdahoHerbalist
“Loads of holes” would be more than I would tolerate though.
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July 19, 2015 at 3:05 AM #34731
Annett
StudentTopic AuthorOk, so I finally identified the bug on my hollyhocks (hollyhock weevil) and they also had rust due to too much moisture. I’m sure this is a novice question, but if a plant has rust problems and bug holes on the leaves would the roots be any good? If a plant has a problem in one part of it does it usually mean the whole goodness of the plant has been compromised?
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July 20, 2015 at 2:47 AM #34735
IdahoHerbalist
Unless the problem is a systemic one ( a virus of some sort comes to mind ) then the roots are probably OK. Weak plants tend to attract these sorts of things so if you do plan on harvesting the roots take a good, close look at them.
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July 21, 2015 at 2:36 PM #34743
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorSometimes stressed plants actually make better medicine. Many of the chemicals we use medicinally are chemicals they are using to repel/kill/discourage pests.
Plant viruses have no impact whatsoever on human cells. So, as long as the material looks good, don’t worry about it. Nibbled leaves don’t negatively impact the plant’s medicinal properties.
If it looks like the bugs are winning, pick a different specimen. If it looks like the plant is being snacked on but doesn’t care, go ahead and use it.
Doc
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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July 21, 2015 at 10:59 PM #34748
IdahoHerbalist
I agree, but STRESSED and WEAK would be the differentiating factor.
Like you said:
Stressed = plant is winning
Weak = bugs or disease is winning
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August 27, 2015 at 8:53 PM #34785
Annett
StudentTopic AuthorI’m so excited about my hollyhocks I have to post this. Because the weevil were just too much for my liking I cut the plants to the ground and burned them, weevils and all. They are growing back. The leaves are mostly perfect. And I’m sure the roots are still in tact:) Wahoo!
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August 28, 2015 at 12:30 AM #34786
IdahoHerbalist
Nice experiment. :yahoo:
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September 8, 2015 at 5:41 PM #34810
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorCool.
🙂 Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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