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JENNIFER COATS
Did a little plant walk around around my house.
I found one mediun (but dry) Black Sage bush, a bunch of small Creosote and small sagebrush. I also harvested and powdered a yucca root (Dadgum That was a chore!)
My questions are was it too early to harvest the yucca? (Most of the spikes were green, but no flower stem yet)
When is a good time to to harvest the Creosote and Sagebrush and does it matter that the plants are young?
Are they even worth harvesting or is something better?
Now, the Black Sage…(assuming the ID app is correct) I read some amazing stuff about it. Is it really that much better? I could post a link to a very interesting write up from a .gov site, but I can’t remember if we’re allowed to post links) anyhow if it’s as amazing as it sounds I may plant it.
Would just like to hear your thoughts. Are these plants something to be excited about or not really?
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JC Stevenson
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The ID app says it’s Salvia mellifera. It badly needs some water but it’s a pretty big plant. I’m going to try and revive it.
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This is the article I found so fascinating .
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As far as the yucca goes, I dug it up. Tried to use a cheese Grater lol only partially successful, then Sliced it finely with a knife and out it through a foid processor before separating the best I could, then out it in my freeze dryer, then powdered it.
With the creasote and Sagebrush I guess what I’m wanting to know how good arw they? Doc often uses words when talking about medicinal plants like ” Rockstar” or “really quite good” or occasionaly he’ll say things like …. such and such plant does have “some” anti-inflammatory properties…. “not as good as comfrey” etc. I want to know if these plants are “really really good” or if they only have “some” properties that make them worth harvesting. Would I be better off growing/using something else instead of messing with these.
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Dr. Patrick Jones
Artemisia tridentata tincture is really quite good for pain topically. I don’t use it for anything internally because there are so many herbs that work as well or better and taste lots better.
Same thing with chaparral. I can hardly be in the same room with it.
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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Any thoughts in Black Sage Doc?
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Hi Laura,
Sorry for the mix up. I posted above and it came in under another users name because I’d logged in as her while helping her set up her account. I’ve deleted the post above. Here’s what I said. :0)
Yucca root can be harvested any time. Just make sure you dry it before you use it.
Chaparrral, Larrea tridentata (aka creosote), is best harvested in the spring (leaf, flower, twig) when the resins are highest.
Was it Black sage (Salvia mellifera) or black sagebrush (Artemisia nova)? Black sage has some really good properties. Lots of the regular sage stuff, plus some good topical pain relieving potential.
There’s very little info about black sagebrush A. arbuscula medicinally.
I haven’t used small sage either. I assume you mean Artemisia arbuscula.
If you want to harvest regular sagebrush, Artemisia tridentata, wait until late summer when it’s really aromatic.
You can post links to good research papers any time you like.
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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Well hello Bob, thanks for clearing that up! (My name is Jennifer but I’ve always liked the name Laura … it has a nice ring to it!) When I read the replying was thinking.. man that really sounds like Doc wrote it… maybe she’s an advanced student or admin or something lol…NOW it all makes sense and I got a good chuckle out of it and a new name to boot!
Did you look at the article I linked to? any thoughts about the black sage? Salvia mellifera
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ROFL…Okay so aside from my personal identity crisis and my complete inability to remember or properly apply human names I’m actually quite smart. I know that because my dog, Abraham Lincoln, told me so. She’s a good dog. :0)
As to the black sage (Salvia mellifera), I did read the article. There are a lot of sages and I hadn’t heard of this rascal. Many of the lesser-known ones are really interesting. Looks like Black sage has some potentially really good pain killing properties. I’ve been experimenting with its cousin white sage (Salvia apiana) similarly. They both have constituents that have affinities for opioid and cannabanoid receptors that modulate/turn off pain.
I’m going to see if I can find some black sage and play with it a little.
Interestingly the Chumash Indians used both of these species for pain issues. They also used California sage (Artemisia californica) for pain. California sage, of course, isn’t a sage. But, then again, what’s in a name?
California sage is good for pain topically too. I’ve used it and like it. If I had to choose between California sage and Sagebrush (Artemisia tridentata), I’d use the A. tridentata because it seems a bit stronger and I can find it in my backyard rather than driving to California.
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Thanks Doc. Appreciate you
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When you say you’re going to see if you and find some and play with it a little, what exactly are you gonna do with it? Tincture it and compare with others? Either way please let me know what conclusion you come to.
On an unrelated note…I was bringing Mama home from Alamogordo today and had to pull over where we had cell service. [ Along the road side ], I see these tiny green plants around … healthy and thriving under a light covering of tall dead grass. Grabbed my phone and guess what it was?.. Black Sage! I immediately thought of your Teasel story. I think maybe the Lord is trying to tell me something. So I grabbed my hunting knife and dug several of the little plants up. Hopefully they’ll grow at home.
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Where in the heck did the edit button go? Lol…I decided I could have told that story with WAY less detail smh, but the “edit”option is gone? Anyhow I do apologize for the TMI
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I found my edit button and fixed it for you. LOL
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THANK YOU!!
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Yeah, I’ll be tincturing some and experimenting. That’s how I usually “play” with herbs. I used to try to play fetch with them but they weren’t good at it and didn’t seem to enjoy it.
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