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January 7, 2024 at 8:06 PM #46636
Jean
StudentHas anyone have any experience with this that they would like to share? I am wondering if it would be a good candidate for phantom pain. Thank you
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January 7, 2024 at 8:10 PM #46637
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorYou know, this might be able to be used topically.
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January 13, 2024 at 7:40 PM #47248
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorIt’d likely help a lot. But what I’d really look closely at is Teasel. I’d do it topically as a tincture and internally. Have a look at the Pain management lessons too.
And this:
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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January 14, 2024 at 5:54 AM #47299
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorYes, I already have the pain kit here. But when I came across Brain and Nerve PaneAway, I was going to add that to the list of things to try for Phantom Pain. I am expecting Teasel to work but wanted as many back up’s as possible. The pain kit was a gift to someone who lost a limb at a very young age. This person is very much older now, so, nothing can be taken internally.
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January 19, 2024 at 11:26 PM #48078
Elizabeth Prackert
StudentHi Jean,
Teasel is certainly worth trying. I had an elderly lady who had very painful neuralgia in both feet. She couldn’t sleep and she was really suffering. I gave her daughter a bottle of hops tincture and a bottle of Teasel tincture and told her to get her mother to spray teasel on her foot and then hops and rub the two tinctures in together. The pain completely disappeared and she also had another symptom that was the feeling of something crawling under her skin elsewhere in her body. She used the teasel and hops combination twice and both symptoms disappeared. I was thrilled that I was able to help her as her daughter has been very kind to me and has become a close friend. Teasel is amazing. Hope it helps Jean.
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January 20, 2024 at 6:23 AM #48083
Kelly Clemmer
StudentThis is great to hear! My mother has nerve pain from chemotherapy and wants to get off of her pharmaceuticals. She’s been talking with her pain specialist and I hope that some day I’ll be able to help her with some herbs…now I have to go harvest some teasel somewhere! I see it all the time in fields and marshy areas!
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January 20, 2024 at 6:53 PM #48145
Elizabeth Prackert
StudentKelly it is a really safe herb and as doc says look for the teasel that doesn’t have flowers that are at the feet of the mature ones. You need the root. Cut it up into small pieces before you dry it. I got some from a Traditional chinese medicine supplier and it was Dipsacus Radix.Its quite hard once it dries and is just like bark.It was obviously fresh and was a reasonable price.It caked onto the top of my grinder..so still had a little bit of moisture. It haven’t found any in Queensland (Australia) although it is in other states. Its a wonderful herb and is often very amazing for nerve pain. Good luck and happy wildcrafting.
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January 21, 2024 at 1:20 AM #48167
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorThank you Elizabeth! I was wondering if the pain tinctures could be mixed. I imagined a scenario where if one tincture did not work, she’d end up going through the whole kit within and hour and I did not know if that was something that was possible to do. But, you mentioned mixing two together. That is a great relief to know! Thank you!
BTW: When I asked the opening question regarding Brain and PaneAway, I actually didnt realize that it was already in the pain kit! He gave the same tincture two different names. I thought what I had was just for head-ack’s. I was delighted to realize that the Brain and PaneAway was already in the kit.
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January 29, 2024 at 2:55 AM #48636
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorApparently there were two products called: Brain and Nerve. Going to try to sort this out.
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January 29, 2024 at 3:05 AM #48637
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorBrain and Nerve HeadAke has: Lemon Balm, Willow Bark, Rosemary, Valerian
Brain and Nerve PaneAway has: Chamomile, Cramp Bark, St. John’s Wort, Skullcap, Valarian
The former being in the pain kit, the latter not in the pain kit.
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January 20, 2024 at 12:05 PM #48109
SUZANNE
StudentGood Afternoon,
Thank you for these conversations on this subject. Do you know where I can find Teasel? I live in East Texas and it is not around my place. I have looked at online herb shops and they are always out of it.
Thank you for your reply.
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January 20, 2024 at 6:41 PM #48144
Elizabeth Prackert
StudentHi Suzanne,
Teasel doesn’t grow in Queensland either as far as I know. I was determined to get some and found a Traditional Chinese medicine supplier. It was so fresh. The one they had was Radix Dipsaci..you need the bark and it is quite hard. I have a herb grinder that I purchased from Amazon. It wasn’t available from any of the herbal suppliers that I use. But that is probably not the case in America which I am guessing is where you live.It is used a lot for Lyme disease in America.. It seems to be able to get into the body very well and is able to break down the biofilm when it is used for Lyme. Its amazing and I think I will be adding it to quite a lot of my formulas. Keep searching and I am sure you will find some. Good Luck.
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January 20, 2024 at 11:30 PM #48165
SUZANNE
StudentHello Elizabeth,
Thank you for your response to my post. I will continue to search for the Teasel here in America. I will try to check out some of the TCM suppliers.You mentioned that you got an herb grinder on Amazon. Can you send me a link for the one you are using? I have been looking for something to grind roots with, but wasn’t sure of which one would work and not break on the first go around. Thank you for your help.
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January 22, 2024 at 6:31 PM #48269
SUZANNE
StudentHi again Elizabeth,
You mentioned your herb grinder in a recent post. Can you please send me the name of the herb grinder you bought from amazon?
Thank you!
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January 22, 2024 at 4:14 PM #48258
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorSuzanne, Doc has teasel. Or, am I missing something?
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January 22, 2024 at 6:29 PM #48268
SUZANNE
StudentThank you, Jean for the reply. Unfortunately they are currently out of stock on Teasel and also so many other things.
Hopefully it will be back in stock soon.
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January 23, 2024 at 11:16 AM #48317
Debbie French
StudentI thought I heard student get a discount in purchases in the shop. I wanted to purchase teasel, However I can’t’ access the store even through I am logged in as student.
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January 23, 2024 at 11:58 AM #48321
Greg Boggs
StudentHey Debbie, have you logged in on the homegrownherbalist site as well? The logins are different
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January 22, 2024 at 4:39 AM #48201
Debbie French
StudentI had a spinal fusion 8 year. I have had chronic pain due to nerve damage from the fusion. Will nerve paneaway or Teasel work? I recently started this class so I do not know anything about either of these tinctures. Thank you for your recommendations.
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January 22, 2024 at 4:18 PM #48259
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorDebbie, I guess if I were in your shoes, I would get the pain kit and try them all. Like Elizabeth said, you can mix Teasel and Hops together and try that too.
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January 23, 2024 at 10:33 PM #48356
Jean
StudentTopic AuthorBy the way, I just looked at the teasel monograph and it states right in the slide show that teasel is listed for phantom pain. And in the video, he talks trying it with an MS patient. Recommending to the MS person that she titrate up, but not to go over 30 drops. She noticed help at 14 drops per day.
Re: Phantom Pain: I am wondering if Teasel will work to prevent the phantom pain attacks rather then wait for the pain to come before using.
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