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    • #35142
      Michelle Koch
      Student

        Are ALL coneflowers medicinal, or is it only purple (Echinacea purpuria) and Black Eyed Susan’s (rudbekia hurts) ? What about those ornamental hybrid varieties? One of them from someone’s flower bed sent a seed adrift on the air season before last, and it planted itself in a vacant lot, all by itself. It came up again this year, in the same spot. It’s got too much red in the petals to be a pure black eyed Susan. I’ll see if I can figure out how to post a picture.

      • #35143
        IdahoHerbalist

          Was it Echinacea or Rudbeckia that seeded itself? All varietals of purpuria are medicinal. We are starting to use the flowers. I believe all rudbeckias are medicinal as well.

        • #35144
          Michelle Koch
          Student
          Topic Author

            I’m not sure. I’m going to have to go look at it again. When I do, I’ll take a picture and figure out how to post it.

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            Michelle Koch
            Student
            Topic Author

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              IdahoHerbalist
              • #35150
                sstolzenburg
                Student

                  It doesn’t look like a cone flower to me. Cone flower leaves are spear head shaped, pointed on the end, elongated diamond shape, not lobed like calendula, and the flower petals look more like a calendula with a jagged end. Cone flowers have petals that are rounded at the end. It is a bit difficult to identify because you are only showing a top view, but there are various color variations of calendula.

                  I have seen black eyed susan with flowers with a dark pattern from center into the flower petals so I am not sure what you have. I do not grow black eyed susan but I do have several variants of purple cone flower. The petals are often varied in length and color from white, to light green, to pink, purple, to red. The center of the flower is not always cone shaped, but they are all somewhat spiney, and bristley on the center. You can compare your flower to cone flowers on google image. Google is not always reliable, but usually the first images are usually accurate, less accurate identification as you go further down the listings.

                  Take some side view pictures, it will help the doc with identification, also take a picture of the plant stalks.

                  SS

                • #35151
                  IdahoHerbalist

                    It does not look like coneflower because it is not. It is Gaillardia per the link I posted.

                  • #35209
                    Dr. Patrick Jones
                    Homestead Instructor

                      Yup. Gaillardia, not coneflower.

                      Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                    • #36034
                      Dr. Patrick Jones
                      Homestead Instructor

                        BTW, Gaillardia is medicinal. The leaf is good internally and topically for gout.

                        Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                      • #36035
                        Michelle Koch
                        Student
                        Topic Author

                          Oh! Thanks for that! All this time I’ve been thinking to myself that such a beautiful plant that is native to the area must be medicinal for something. It’s nice to know I was right– even if not for what I at first hoped. 🙂

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