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    • #36310
      Petrucci054

        I was wondering if it’s ok to store herbs in the plastic zipper bags i buy from Mountain Rose herbs?. Or is it better to store them in sealed glass jars?. Will my herbs go bad or lose potency if store them in the zipper bags it comes with?.

      • #36312
        Reverie Farm

          I store all of my herbs in ziploc-type bags in large sealed bins at a cool temp (~50-60F). In general, the idea is to keep herbs from being exposed to light, heat and moisture. Any/all of these can rapidly degrade the quality of an herb and reduce its potency. This is why you often see bulk herbs in clear jars that look anemic.

          FWIW- I would be happier to use glass rather than plastic, but at my scale of business I can’t afford it and it is highly impractical.

        • #36320
          Petrucci054

            That’s exactly what i do, i use the same bags i get from Mountain Rose Herbs and store them in a closed storage container. I wonder if oxygen will degrade the herbs in those bags?. I don’t have room for large glass jars to store pounds of herbs. Hopefully the herbs will be ok.

          • #36321
            Michelle Koch
            Student

              I have stored herbs in plastic baggies, only to discover the got moldy. It is possible that they were not completely dry as I thought, but now I don’t trust baggies. Now I use jars, and yes my shelves are pretty crowded.

            • #36323
              IdahoHerbalist

                Where did the plants that molded come from?

              • #36325
                Michelle Koch
                Student

                  The wild, around my community. Gumweed was one (one that needs more drying time, to be sure.) Dandelion flowers was the other. Again, probably needed more time to dry.

                • #36326
                  IdahoHerbalist

                    Yes, drying time is critical.

                    Forgot to mention this:

                    When I first started working at HGH we would store our herbs in large plastic bags. We would have the odd mold and mildew issues. Because of this we have started storing our material in brown grocery bags. They are completely opaque (light) and absorbent (moisture). Being exposed to the outside it is my theory that they wick away moisture and transfer it to the surrounding air. We have not had one issue since we started doing this.

                    Another thing I just thought of: are you chopping your plants up before drying? This helps them to release their moisture faster and more thoroughly. Flowers are a bit tougher for this, ESPECIALLY gumweed.

                  • #36819
                    Kelley
                    Student

                      I store all my herbs in glass mason jars with the oxygen removed. I use a vacuum sealer to remove the oxygen from the jar and seal the lid tight. Food saver sells both regular and small jar lid size gadget for sealing. It can be opened and resealed. It does take up a lot of room to have so many jars, but it keeps herbs and dry foods fresh for years. I put them all in the root/wine cellar.

                      I have opened up jars that were sealed 10 years ago and they taste exactly like the day they were sealed.

                    • #36829
                      IdahoHerbalist

                        I would be interested in some testing to see if the potency is still there.

                      • #36845
                        Dr. Patrick Jones
                        Homestead Instructor

                          laughingfrog wrote: I store all my herbs in glass mason jars with the oxygen removed. I use a vacuum sealer to remove the oxygen from the jar and seal the lid tight. Food saver sells both regular and small jar lid size gadget for sealing. It can be opened and resealed. It does take up a lot of room to have so many jars, but it keeps herbs and dry foods fresh for years. I put them all in the root/wine cellar.

                          I have opened up jars that were sealed 10 years ago and they taste exactly like the day they were sealed.

                          I used to do a lot of vacuum sealing in the old days. I think it does help with preservation. Our scale is such these days that nothing is around long enough for vacuum sealing to make a difference.

                          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                        • #36852
                          IdahoHerbalist

                            We store our herbs in brown paper grocery bags. In most environments this helps keep the material dry and in the dark.

                            As noted earlier, unless the material is ABSOLUTELY dry you will tend to get molds in plastic or glass containers.

                            Also, for the zip lock bags, just buy storage bags from Walmart or some other source. Get the freezer bags if you are concerned about material poking through.

                          • #36855
                            Annett
                            Student

                              After vacuum sealing, would you say the potency is still there then? Has anyone come across a study or anything? If they taste the same would that be a good indication that they are still potent? I remember that Doc told a class once that the better the herb the more you can smell it’s smell–or something similar.

                            • #36863
                              Dr. Patrick Jones
                              Homestead Instructor

                                annett wrote: After vacuum sealing, would you say the potency is still there then? Has anyone come across a study or anything? If they taste the same would that be a good indication that they are still potent? I remember that Doc told a class once that the better the herb the more you can smell it’s smell–or something similar.

                                Vacuum sealing won’t do anything but improve shelf life. No threat to potency there.

                                Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                              • #36877
                                Cluttermagnet

                                  Hey, Doc-

                                  How long would you expect that your poultice mix would

                                  remain potent/effective in storage? Say in the back of a

                                  dark cabinet and at least 70 degrees F year round? The

                                  missus likes to keep the place warm- she grew up in

                                  southern California.

                                  Thanks, Clutter

                                • #36892
                                  IdahoHerbalist

                                    Because of the flax I would keep it in the fridge. Flax has lots of oils/fats in it. You could expect 6 – 12 months out of it then.

                                  • #36923
                                    Cluttermagnet

                                      Just found your reply- thanks! Makes sense, oils do eventually go rancid.

                                      I’ve moved my still unopened pouch of poultice mix into the refrigerator.

                                      Clutter

                                    • #36932
                                      IdahoHerbalist

                                        The freezer would be even better.

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