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    • #61628
      Sharon
      Student

        Another thing I would like to know – what are some of the better herbs for “daily vitamins” & best way to take them?  I’m a “super taster” (more taste buds than normal people with a very low tolerance for bitter or sour things), so capsules for the worst tasting would be better for me.  Hubby hasn’t had taste buds since the “virus” took that away, so he wouldn’t care either way, but I’m going to try and do the same protocol for both of us if I can.  Thanks!

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      • #61631
        Stella Pedelahore
        Student

          When it comes to vitamins and minerals the best in my opinion would probably have to be stinging nettle, you can find it in powder form or in capsules perhaps that would suit you best since it doesn’t taste that great, other interesting options might be nopales, horsetail, oat straw or rosehips. Hope that helps !

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          • #61712
            Sharon
            Student
            Topic Author

              Stella – stinging nettle should be a great choice.  I will be making my own capsules (using tapioca capsules as the others appear to have health complications).  I cannot picture taking my prickly pear cactus and encapsulating it though LOL!   I do have both oat straw and rosehips (the dried whole berries – not just part of it – so it has the “itchy” stuff in it).

          • #61636
            Greg Boggs
            Student

              Alfalfa is pretty high in mineral content too, that could be a good one

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            • #61652
              Dr. Patrick Jones
              Homestead Instructor

                Look at the Nutritive and the Digestive Prebiotic formulas:

                Digestive Formulas

                Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                • #61711
                  Sharon
                  Student
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                    I am assuming Doc that you are recommending those two as good candidates for encapsulating.  I think more than anything, given the “super taster” nature of me, I’m really asking which herbs ARE and which ones ARE NOT good for encapsulating?  I can only take so many tinctures (and oddly, I can tolerate those – maybe because they are so fast to go down?).  Anyway, trying to work around my absolute gagging over bitter things (like fire cider for example!), and just get the herbs into me.  Perhaps not the ideal way, but I feel that if I can get some of the nastier tasting ones OUT of my smoothie and into capsules, I would actually enjoy my smoothies rather than having to grimace when drinking them!  Any help is welcome and greatly appreciated!  And thank you Stella and Greg for your suggestions.

                    • #61764
                      Jean
                      Student

                        Sharon, have you tried taking the dried herbs and adding honey to them?  ie: a teaspoon of dried herb + a 1/4 honey.

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                        • #61778
                          Sharon
                          Student
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                            I have not done this partially because I don’t want to keep consuming more and more sugar/honey, and partially because I had never thought about it!  The biggest offender for me at this point in time is the fire cider – but I have found in the last couple of days two workarounds to get it down without wanting to toss my cookies!  One is a pinch of salt in the fire cider, and the other is to take a bit of oil (lemon flavored cod liver oil in particular), and kind of coat my tongue and mouth with it before downing the fire cider.  Both worked about equally well.  I can’t say I like the taste at all, but I didn’t want to hurl and that’s huge, so I’ll take that.  I like the oil method more because I already consume a lot of “pink salt” because I crave salt, and because I’m going to take the cod liver oil anyway.  Maybe this will help some other super taster!

                             

                            • #61779
                              Jean
                              Student

                                Hi Sharon,

                                I have to be careful with sweeteners too.  Honey inclusive.  I try to use the least amount possible. But, sometimes the taste of the powdered herb is so strong that it quite offsets the honey.  You can make it as palatable or unpalatable as you want.  I have not tried dampening the herb first with water, then adding the honey.  Perhaps I would be able to use less honey that way and it would be easier to mix the honey into the dried herb if I were to wet it down a little bit first. I will have to try that, so, I can use lesson the amount of honey used.

                                Is it possible for you to make your own fire cider (I dont know if you do or not) and make a recipe that you can handle?  Not sure why you are taking it.  I guess I could think of better things to take. (maybe or maybe not) Will have to think about that one. Perhaps I would just use lemon in water.  Or make the fermented garlic and honey recipe (that also has ACV) or make strong garlic butter on toast. Garlic might be hard for you to. I guess it depends on if you like garlic butter on toast or not. (then again, bread can be an issue) but, some kind of crackers maybe instead of bread?

                                 

                        • #61770
                          Jean
                          Student

                            Maybe someone could help me with this.  A long time ago, I learned that alfalfa sprouts had some kind of an anti-nutrient in them naturally that protected the plant. and that only full grown alfalfa was safe to eat because it was devoid of this anti-nutrient. Apparently it was a chemical that attacks the immune system.  Perhaps someone else had heard/read of this as well.  Ever since then, I have avoided alfalfa sprouts.

                        • #61769
                          Jean
                          Student

                            What I have done for losing taste/smell.  I take pumpkin or squash seeds.  Soak them over night in water. Roast them the next day in the oven.  Normally people salt them before putting them in the oven.  After they are roasted and cooled, I put them in the blender and whiz till powder like.  Then I take a teaspoon at a time and chew.  Pretty yummy.  A couple of weeks back I was doing this. (I usually end up eating a lot of it because it does taste good to me) I noticed a short time later (a week or two later?) that when I walked into the house I could smell tangerine.  (The person eating the tangerine was 26 feet from the door I had just walked through)  It would be nice to know if this would help someone else.

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                            • #61776
                              Sharon
                              Student
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                                Jean!  Hubby wants to try this since he’s had no taste or smell to speak of (little bits and pieces here and there, but for the most part – none) since around 12-21.  We’re going to get an organic kombucha squash and use those seeds since it’s his favorite squash.  Sounds like you’ve been doing this for a while now before you smelled anything.  Any idea how often/much you have eaten before you could smell?  Also, have you since regained any more ability to smell or taste – or was it a one time event?  We will try it and report back to you though 🙂

                                 

                                • #61780
                                  Jean
                                  Student

                                    Hi Sharon, my guess it would take less then a month.  It depends on how deficient he is.

                                    Different seeds (squash vs pumpkin) taste different. I think the smaller seeds can make a finer powder?  You dont have to blend the seeds into a powder. If they are edible after roasting, that will do just fine.  I looked up Roasted Kabocha Squash Seeds and found a recipe on a website called Catfish out of Water.  So, apparently that kind of seed will do fine.  I would follow her instructions.  Some bigger seeds are better then others. My main objective with the blending of the seed is to make the whole seed available to my system in a form that I can easily digest, since I have issues with digestion.  So, the gentle powdering of the seed works well for me. I can take this on an empty stomach if I want to use it for reasons other then loss of smell and taste.  I believe pumpkin seeds are higher in zinc, then squash seeds are that is why they would be the best choice. But I use whatever I have on hand. Pumpkin seeds might get you there faster?  One could just munch on organic green pumpkin seeds as well. I find the powder delightful and could easily eat 1/4 cup of powder in one sitting.  So, its totally up to you.  I now put the powder in the fridge for storage because it would last longer that way. I believe pumpkin seeds have a lot of fat in them, so, just better to store them somewhere cool, esp. after blending them. (anytime you blend anything, I think you are oxidizing the product)  Hope this is helpful to you and yours.  yes, please let me know if it helps. (I dont think it took very long but, I have it now and then when available.)

                                    • #61791
                                      Sharon
                                      Student
                                      Topic Author

                                        Jean – is your sense of taste and smell completely back to normal now?  Was your a covid thing also like it was for my hubby?  If so, I’m guessing that you just eat the roasted seeds because you like them?  I will check out that website for the seeds.  I can’t imagine after all we have tried for his “missing senses”, that just seeds could solve that issue, but certainly willing to try.  Back to my weird stuff…  I do make my own fire cider for immune health, but pretty much everything in it repulses me – the ACV, onions, garlic, many other ingredients.  Only “tough it out” to keep the immune system stronger.  We also use Immunity Support tincture as well.

                                         

                                        • #61793
                                          Jean
                                          Student

                                            Hi Sharon,  For me to be able to smell someone eating a tangerine 26 feet away two seconds after I came in the house (or less) was pretty amazing. I eat the powdered seeds because I know I am deficient in zinc.  I just happen to like the salty taste and the powder. You said:  (I can’t imagine after all we have tried for his “missing senses”, that just seeds could solve that issue . . .) I think a lot of things are like that in life. I think the answers are amazingly easy or simple.  I just think we over complicate things. I hope the seeds work for your husband.

                                            I also have a theory about Vit. D deficiencies and want to try something simple out regarding that as well.

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                                            ps. I am not keen on fire cider either.  I am thinking of just making tea with elderberries.

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                                            • #61819
                                              Sharon
                                              Student
                                              Topic Author

                                                Jean, so your smell is back 100% now!?  We have been taking zinc for a while now, still could be deficient, but likely not greatly so.  What about your sense of taste?  It also came back with the zinc “seeds”?  Hubby has been without taste and smell (mostly gone) since 12-21!

                                                Vitamin D deficiency – you MUST look into Jeff Bowles Vitamin D books and podcasts!  He has tested (on himself and many others) VERY high doses and found that it corrects SO many things the body is struggling with.  He will tell you that you have to take K2 and Magnesium with it though.  We have backed off on the D3 a bit for a while because we found that we are magnesium deficient.  So we are building up the mag so we can again bump the D3.  I think you will be as impressed as we are.  Look for “vitamin-d3-deficiency-causes-most-human-disease”.

                                                • #61824
                                                  Jean
                                                  Student

                                                    Hi Sharon,    I know that pumpkin seeds are high in zinc.  Squash seeds are what I have on hand.  Recently I noticed my sense of smell and taste were diminished (again) So, I just turn to whatever seeds that I have on hand.  All I can tell you is that walking thru the door and being able to smell the scent of tangerines that far away was quite impressive. (It certainly was a WOW moment)

                                                    I have taken zinc tablets and liquids before and they taste awful.  Horrid!  I much rather take a food high in zinc instead.  The synergy of the nutrients from a food source work far better together then a zinc product. Who knows?  Maybe there is something else in the seeds that is helping that we might not know about yet. I hope you are able to figure it out, seeds or no seeds.

                                                    Re: Magnesium: You might want to see if you can figure out what is using your magnesium stores up. I am sure stress plays a big role in that.  However, there might be other things that can deplete magnesium stores as well.  Thank you for the Vit. D info. I will look into it.

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