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    • #34845
      Annetrich
      Student

        I have a friend who is struggling with kidney stones. What/how would you go about treating this? Thanks.

      • #34846
        IdahoHerbalist

          We have a product called Kidney-S in the store.

          You can either purchase that or see the herbs that are used to make that up.

        • #34847
          Dr. Patrick Jones
          Homestead Instructor

            Here is an outline of the ingredients in that Kidney-S Formula and what they’re doing:

            Gravel Root – Dissolves stones

            Dandelion Leaf – Increases urine output to flush the system

            Lobelia – an antispasmodic…Relaxes the micro muscles of the ureters and urethra to allow stone passage

            Marshmallow – soothing demulcent to decrease irritation and inflammation of the urinary tract

            Parsley Root – disolves sotnes and increases urine output

            Ginger – warming and stimulating as a catalyst for the formula

            So, let’s do a little exercise…

            Suppose you had a client with a stone and had none of the herbs listed above. What could you substitute to get the same results?

            Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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          • #34848
            IdahoHerbalist

              Juniper comes to mind immediately. Will have to dig deep for any others since the formula is pretty comprehensive.

              Yarrow is warming.

              Valerian is a relaxant.

              Mallow grows like crazy in my yard, for the demulcent.

              The diuretic is the only one that escapes me at the moment.

            • #37081
              HerbNut

                Years ago I’ve had 2 stones “retrieved” yet managed to pass a third one. Next week I go for a CT Scan to confirm size/number of stone(s) in my left kidney so would like to try the Kidney-S formula but have a few of questions:

                1. Just curious as to how Gravel and Parsley Root dissolves or breaks up the stone (I believe I have Calcium Oxalate Stones which are most common but I thought they don’t normally dissolve) Any idea as to the chemical reaction taking place?

                2. When I researched Gravel Root I found information on WebMD (yeah, I know…) that said it may be likely unsafe (Liver damage) unless “hepatotoxic PA-free”; is this another over force feeding rats causes issues type of thing similar with Comfrey?

                3. The SHOP has various type and measures of the formula; I presume all types should be effective but not sure which to order since there’s no direction on how much to take how often. For instance if I order the 100 capsules how many do I take how often per day? Maybe 5 capsules 4 times a day provides a 5-day regimen or is this too much for too long?

                Any guidance on dosage recommendations would be appreciated.

                Thanks!

              • #37082
                IdahoHerbalist

                  The formula is now called

                • #37087
                  HerbNut

                    Yes, that is true. What is the suggested daily dose? (of the 100 capsules size)

                  • #37091
                    IdahoHerbalist

                      Capsule portions are 4-6 caps twice a day.

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