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      Patti Kemner
      Student

        Do the other species of Lobelia (listed in Strictly Medicinals catalog) L. cardinalis and L. siphilitica also have the same medicinal properties as Lobelia inflata? Looking in some other herbals, I only see L. inflata listed.

      • #21343
        Dr. Patrick Jones
        Homestead Instructor

          Lobelia inflata is the most commonly used and is the strongest antispasmodic. The other two, L. cardinalis and L. siphilitica have similar properties (as well as a few distinct properties). L. cardinalis is the prettiest. :0)

          Lobelia erinus is the little Lobelia in all the summer hanging baskets at the nursery. That’s an African species and is quite different than the others. Very little research has been done on it.

          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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          • #25843
            Sharon
            Student

              For Lobelia – is the medicine the leaves, flowers, or both?

              • #25868
                Dr. Patrick Jones
                Homestead Instructor

                  Aerial parts…anything above the ground.

                  Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                  • #25879
                    Sharon
                    Student

                      Thanks Doc.  And the first year for them, as I understand it, won’t be much leaf and no flower!

                      • #25936
                        Dr. Patrick Jones
                        Homestead Instructor

                          Lobelia inflata is an annual (or sometimes a biennial). L. cardinalis is a perrennial. So, don’t wait for a better year on the L. inflata.  When I’ve grown it, it’s always been good enough to harvest the first year.

                          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

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                          • #25963
                            Sharon
                            Student

                              Interesting!  Richo’s instructions for the seed: “it makes sense to follow the natural cycles for this plant.  In nature, germination is in the fall, after which the low-lying rosette overwinters, and flowers and goes to seed in the next spring to early summer.  If you try to grow it as a spring annual it will probably bolt to flower when the soils warm up in the summer and give very little yield.”

                              I like your assessment better that I’ll actually get something from my “paltry few” plants!  Do you plant seeds in the spring and then harvest that same summer?

                              • #26140
                                Steven Feil
                                Student

                                  As you mention, each plant has fairly specific propagation/germination requirements. They also have similar needs for harvesting. Lobelia inflata, for example, being an annual, will be harvested the first year. Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcis senticosus) is a seven year wait. Some are shorter. Some are longer. Some plants are affected by where they are growing as well. In some zones Lobelia must be planted in the Spring as the plant will not survive the Winter. Richo lives in a fairly mild environment.

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