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    • #34346
      Laura L. Bergeson
      Student

        It seems that most of the adaptogens come from exotic parts of the world. If we needed to make a formula to support, say adrenal function, what herbs that grow in the western US would be suitable? (Sorry Faye!) 🙂

      • #34347
        Dr. Patrick Jones
        Homestead Instructor

          The only “local” adrenal herb that comes to mind is licorice. Glycyrrhiza lepidota is the local version and should work as well as the Asian G. glabbra.

          Here are some pics:

          Doc

          Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

        • #34350
          Laura L. Bergeson
          Student
          Topic Author

            How do you feel about long term use of licorice, if there is no underlying problem with blood pressure? Some formulas have mullein in them to help with glands, but I’m not sure if it is a good stand alone.

          • #34351
            Dr. Patrick Jones
            Homestead Instructor

              SageWoman wrote: How do you feel about long term use of licorice, if there is no underlying problem with blood pressure? Some formulas have mullein in them to help with glands, but I’m not sure if it is a good stand alone.

              If we’re talking about adrenal fatigue specifically, I think it’s important to define what that means exactly.

              Adrenal fatigue is sort of a “catch all” phrase that holistic healers use to describe a condition of physical and emotional exhaustion. It may or may not have anything to do with the adrenal glands (though often it does). Addressing the adrenals specifically isn’t usually the answer.

              When I get a client in this condition I approach it on three fronts…

              Nutrition

              Emotional adaptations

              Exercise

              Herbs

              Nutrition:

              Make sure the person is eating well. Breakfast is particularly important. Quality fats and proteins are particularly important and making sure the carbs being eaten are mostly complex green ones rather than starchy, white ones (broccoli not bread). B vitamins, especially B12 are really important as are minerals like magnesium and selenium. VIt D3 is helpful too.

              One great way to get some of the nutrients needed is by the regular use of bone broth as well as fermented foods.

              Herbs that can be helpful in this are Nettles, Alfalfa, Burdock, Dandelion and any of the other deep-rooted plants. These can be used every day, long term.

              Emotional Adaptations:

              Most of these folks are emotionally stressed. This puts them in a sympathetic “Fight or Flight” mode which is exhausting and cannot be maintained long-term without some serious health consequences. Lifestyle changes are often needed. They need to give some things up whether it be activities, aims or attitudes. Emotional release therapies can be a real blessing for some folks. Prayer, meditation, yoga and other activities that center the mind and relax the body are very useful. Deep, intentional breathing can do wonders.

              Exercise:

              If the person is able, exercise is also a valuable tool. Mild to moderate exercise is one of the best ways to physiologically reduce stress. If they can’t exercise, have them get a LifeTime Vibe Machine. http://lifetimevibe.com/ Tell ’em Doc Jones sent you.

              Herbs:

              Licorice, Ashwaganda, Nettle seed, Nettle leaf, Siberian ginseng are very helpful. One of my other favorites is Oat straw. It is the best thing in the for frazzled nerves and emotional exhaustion. For acute issues of anxiety/stress, Valerian, Chamomile, skullcap, or other relaxing nervines can be a real blessing.

              Remember too that most of these folks have been wearing themselves out for years. It usually takes several months to get them feeling good again. Be patient and persevere.

              Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

            • #34352
              Laura L. Bergeson
              Student
              Topic Author

                I’m seeing more and more people who are frazzled by life, just as you said. My husband and I serve 2 days a week at our local food bank and I come in contact with so many who are down and out and ready to give up. I’d like to take them home and use your protocol to help them get back to function again. Thanks for your thoughts.

                It occurs to me that if we ever have a societal collapse, this type of fatigue will be a real problem. That is one reason I asked for ideas of adaptogen herbs that grow in the west. In a collapse situation, the stockpile of herbs that I have put away could be quickly depleted. I would need to forage close to home.

              • #34353
                Dr. Patrick Jones
                Homestead Instructor

                  SageWoman wrote: I’m seeing more and more people who are frazzled by life, just as you said. My husband and I serve 2 days a week at our local food bank and I come in contact with so many who are down and out and ready to give up. I’d like to take them home and use your protocol to help them get back to function again. Thanks for your thoughts.

                  It occurs to me that if we ever have a societal collapse, this type of fatigue will be a real problem. That is one reason I asked for ideas of adaptogen herbs that grow in the west. In a collapse situation, the stockpile of herbs that I have put away could be quickly depleted. I would need to forage close to home.

                  In the apocalypse, the deep-rooted stuff will be your friends…Burdock, Red Clover, Alfalfa, Dandelion, Nettles…Oat straw and valerian are easy to grow. Ashwagandha can be grown as an annual here.

                  Doc

                  Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                • #34360
                  IdahoHerbalist

                    Doc Jones wrote: Remember too that most of these folks have been wearing themselves out for years. It usually takes several months to get them feeling good again. Be patient and persevere.

                    That is why soooooo many go to the Dr (legal or otherwise) for the UPPERS and SEDATIVES! They want the fix and they want it NOW!

                  • #36457
                    Annett
                    Student

                      Are Burdock, Red Clover, Alfalfa, Dandelion, and Nettles considered adaptogens?

                      I was reading this week and some other herbs were getting the title of adaptogen and so I’m wondering if they also are:

                      Motherwort, Rhodiola, Chocolate (not the processed stuff), Hawthorn

                    • #36460
                      IdahoHerbalist

                        The first group you mention are deep rooted and/or very nutrient dense. They help you deal with stress by feeding your body.

                      • #36465
                        Annett
                        Student

                          Ya, I thought they fit the Adaptogens definition that Doc gives, but I wanted to be sure they fit into that category.

                          Guido Mase’ says that Motherwort, Rhodiola, Chocolate (in the raw), and Hawthorn are also Adaptogens. So I’m wondering if that is true.

                          Thanks for your help.

                        • #36467
                          Dr. Patrick Jones
                          Homestead Instructor

                            annett wrote: Ya, I thought they fit the Adaptogens definition that Doc gives, but I wanted to be sure they fit into that category.

                            Guido Mase’ says that Motherwort, Rhodiola, Chocolate (in the raw), and Hawthorn are also Adaptogens. So I’m wondering if that is true.

                            Thanks for your help.

                            Yup it’s true.

                            Rhodiola is a really good one. I’ve beeen playing with Schisandra of late…also good.

                            Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

                          • #36470
                            Annett
                            Student

                              Thank you!

                            • #36502
                              HighlyHerbal

                                Doc Jones could you please elaborate on fermented foods.

                                I believe buttermilk is a fermented food. That reminds me of my elixir:

                                KD :Kill Diabetes: buttermilk, coconut water, egg, mangoes, red wild salmon

                                Combine 250 ml each of buttermilk and mango purée, 750 ml coconut water in 2 L jug

                                Separately Purée 1 can 218 g of red wild salmon with 6 raw eggs

                                Add salmon/egg purée to buttermilk/mango purée/coconut water and blend into hearty liquid meal

                                :love:

                                r

                              • #36505
                                IdahoHerbalist

                                  Very quick internet search yielded this:


                                • #36524
                                  HighlyHerbal

                                    Idaho: Buttermilk is powerful medicine as is all good food! 🙂

                                  • #36528
                                    HighlyHerbal

                                      Since the elixir recipe makes 8 cups, 2L, why not use 8 eggs to achieve at last 1 egg per 250 ml 🙂

                                      my elixir:

                                      KD :Kill Diabetes: buttermilk, coconut water, egg, mangoes, red wild salmon

                                      Combine 250 ml each of buttermilk and mango purée, 750 ml coconut water in 2 L jug

                                      Separately Purée 1 can 218 g of red wild salmon with 8 raw eggs

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