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Laura L. Bergeson.
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December 18, 2014 at 10:37 AM #34007
Fey
I thought I should put the recipe in here too.
I dig up a bit of ginger and Turmeric rhizomes, cut off half an inch of each and put it in a blender with a peeled lemon and honey. Make it up to 600mls (20 fl oz??) with water and drink it.
About two hours later you’ll notice that any lower back pain has sneakily gone.
I’ve only tried this with fresh rhizomes.
If you make up a few litres and put in the fridge, the colour intensifies over a few days.
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December 18, 2014 at 2:02 PM #34009
IdahoHerbalist
I have used turmeric for stomach issues. Sometimes when I drink too much water and my stomach gets sour or some sort of acid reflux starts happening I make turmeric balls with honey. This heals the little valve at the top of the stomach. After a couple of days of this treatment the condition ceases. After a couple of rounds ever couple of months I rarely have the problem now. Maybe that is because turmeric is in so many of the formulations I am taking from Doc?
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December 19, 2014 at 11:30 AM #34015
Fey
That’s a side to Turmeric I’ve never heard of. How much do you use to make a ball? Is it just enough to form a small pill or something the size of a horse tablet? Do you take it on an empty stomach, drink water with it to wash it down, or sort of suck on it until it washes down with saliva? Have you tried it with fresh as well as dried Turmeric?
Have you noticed other health benefits to taking it? So many people around the world are taking curcumin tablets every day to ward off cancer or even as part of a cancer treatment. Do you notice a lessening in aching joints or muscles?
It’s quite exciting to be able to find out the results of someone following a herbal protocol.
I hope this isn’t too personal; just ignore it if it is, ok? Usually with a weakening of the Lower oesophageal sphincter, it results in hiatus hernia. Was the reflux problem this advanced? It would be good to write that conditional off as being healable with a herb.
I’m also wondering if the Turmeric had a positive effect on your digestion that just lessened or eliminated the conditions to bring on reflux….like enabling you to digest the problem foods better.
I’ll probably think of heaps of other questions. Did you keep notes on progress? :poke:
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December 19, 2014 at 2:00 PM #34018
IdahoHerbalist
I mixed just enough honey to make a pill. Make them any size you want. You can either swallow them whole or, better yet suck on them like a cough drop. Herb was dry. Believe it was before food and water. Has been a long time and I have not kept a treatment log.
I do not take Turmeric specifically for joint issues, but I believe it is in the joint formula I get from Doc. The formula for this is Silver Lining Herbs so you will have to go to their site to see what is in that formula.
All other answers would be N/A or no info.
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December 19, 2014 at 8:55 PM #34019
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December 21, 2014 at 10:45 PM #34020
Fey
I thought this was interesting;
Turmeric has long been studied for its anticancer properties, anti-inflammatory effects, and tumor-fighting activities known in nutrition-speak as anti-angiogenesis. The active agent in the spice is a plant chemical, or polyphenol, called curcumin.
Approximately 5% of the spice turmeric is composed of curcumin, about 5% of black pepper by weight is comprised of a compound called piperine. Curcumin is responsible for the yellow color of turmeric and piperine for the pungent flavor of pepper. Piperine is a potent inhibitor of drug metabolism. One of the ways our liver gets rid of foreign substances is making them water soluble so they can be more easily excreted. But this black pepper molecule inhibits that process.
And it doesn’t take much. If people are given a bunch of turmeric curcumin, within an hour there’s a little bump in the level in their blood stream. We don’t see a large increase because our liver is actively trying to get rid of it. But what if the process is suppressed by taking just a quarter teaspoon’s worth of black pepper? Then you see curcumin levels skyrocket. The same amount of curcumin consumed, but the bioavailability shoots up 2000%.
Even just a little pinch of pepper—1/20th of a teaspoon—can significantly boost levels.
Another way to boost the absorption of curcumin is to consume it in the whole food, turmeric root (fresh or dried as a powder) because natural oils found in turmeric root and turmeric powder can enhance the bioavailability of curcumin seven to eight fold. When eaten with fat, curcumin can be directly absorbed into the bloodstream through the lymphatic system thereby in part bypassing the liver.
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December 22, 2014 at 12:51 AM #34021
IdahoHerbalist
Wow, I knew black pepper was not good for us for some reason. Isn’t it amazing that we could use the bad thing for a good result?
I wonder how many other things we could use this physiological feature to enhance. I wonder how many we should avoid this with as well though.
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December 22, 2014 at 9:07 AM #34022
Fey
It seems as if eating pepper makes the body take up more nutrients into the blood stream instead of the liver getting rid of them fast. They say that taking multivitamins makes for expensive urine, so pepper could stop us flushing them out down the loo. Personally, I wouldn’t want to absorb vitamins in a tablet form because many Vitamin Bs are petroleum derived. But adding pepper to our salads could be a good thing.
But what does it do with prescription pills? I really don’t like the thought of that! 🙁
Black Pepper for Absorption
In addition to getting key nutrients when you eat black pepper, your body might be able to absorb all of those vitamins and minerals more easily when you eat black pepper. According to Murray and Pizzorno, black pepper contains a compound called piperine. Piperine can help your body absorb certain nutrients, such as B vitamins, selenium and beta-carotene, more efficiently and in larger doses.
The piperine in black pepper can boost the liver’s ability to detoxify your body, Murray and Pizzorno note. Black pepper might also aid in normal digestion. According to Murray and Pizzorno, the spiciness of black pepper encourages your body to produce more stomach acid, which makes digestion more efficient. A 2010 article published in “Nutrition Today,” reports that black pepper has antimicrobial, antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties, as well, making it a potentially useful medicinal agent.
Improve Digestion and Promote Intestinal Health
Black pepper (Piper nigrum)stimulates the taste buds in such a way that an alert is sent to to the stomach to increase hydrochloric acid secretion, thereby improving digestion. Hydrochloric acid is necessary for the digestion of proteins and other food components in the stomach. When the body’s production of hydrochloric acid is insufficient, food may sit in the stomach for an extended period of time, leading to heartburn or indigestion, or it may pass into the intestines, where it can be used as a food source for unfriendly gut bacteria, whose activities produce gas, irritation, and/or diarrhea or constipation.
Black pepper has long been recognized as a carminitive, (a substance that helps prevent the formation of intestinal gas), a property likely due to its beneficial effect of stimulating hydrochloric acid production. In addition, black pepper has diaphoretic (promotes sweating), and diuretic (promotes urination) properties.
Black pepper has demonstrated impressive antioxidant and antibacterial effects–yet another way in which this wonderful seasoning promotes the health of the digestive tract. And not only does black pepper help you derive the most benefit from your food, the outer layer of the peppercorn stimulates the breakdown of fat cells, keeping you slim while giving you energy to burn.
And from another forum;
Black pepper is best when added after cooking. Heating it changes it’s benefits.
According to Dr. Christopher once black pepper has been cooked it becomes carcinogenic. Before cooking it is a valuable herb with a number of uses. I always try to add in pepper last thing before serving.
So then we have to think about the heat treatments involved in the pepper processing. A herb wholesaler here has told me that everything they sell is heated to 70C. Even their organic herbs….to kill off “bugs”. Is 70C classed as cooking?
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December 22, 2014 at 1:54 PM #34023
IdahoHerbalist
Renee has done much study on raw foods cooking and dehydrating. What she has found is that in order to retain its “raw” status it must be kept below 120 f and 115 is preferable.
70c = 158f so it is actually cooking the products. THAT is not good. I will have to check with some of the herb companies we use out here to see what their processing preference or requirements are.
This is just another hint that growing our own or collecting is very important if we are to get the full benefit of our friends the plants.
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December 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM #34024
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorThe black pepper information is really important and interesting. Thanks for sharing that Fay.
One of the less-common things I used turmeric for is malabsorption issues. The ayurvedics use it for this. Seems the pepper would enhance that property as well. I’ll have to start doing some experimenting with the pepper!
Turmeric also has a synergistic relationship with Boswellia (Frankincense). Using the two together enhances their anti-inflammatory properties…sort of a 1+1=3 result.
Doc
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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December 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM #34031
Fey
There’s a guy on eBay in Arizona selling Boswellia plants now. They are very rare and apparently the seeds have only an eight percent germination rate.
Doc, just had a thought…..Turmeric plus pepper PLUS Boswellia!!! That could be a super anti inflammatory.
I’m going to buy some Boswellia resin and give it a go.
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December 23, 2014 at 3:48 AM #34041
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorFey wrote: There’s a guy on eBay in Arizona selling Boswellia plants now. They are very rare and apparently the seeds have only an eight percent germination rate.
Doc, just had a thought…..Turmeric plus pepper PLUS Boswellia!!! That could be a super anti inflammatory.
I’m going to buy some Boswellia resin and give it a go.
Boswellia might do well in your area. It’s kind of a hot desert shrub/tree. Let us know how you do.
Some of you folks down in St. George could probably grow it.
The pepper idea has some remarkable implications. I need to do some real thinking on it.
Doc
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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December 23, 2014 at 4:12 AM #34043
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December 23, 2014 at 9:28 PM #34046
Fey
Doc Jones wrote:
There’s a guy on eBay in Arizona selling Boswellia plants now. They are very rare and apparently the seeds have only an eight percent germination rate.
Boswellia might do well in your area. It’s kind of a hot desert shrub/tree. Let us know how you do.
Doc
Most of our land here is rainforest but I’ve got a side of a hill that’s rocky. It takes a frost too. I read on some other forums that some people are getting them to germinate (one guy had 3 out of 100 seeds) but they dampened off and died. There aren’t any plants for sale here but I might give the seeds a go.
I liked the article that IdahoHerbalist put in…..it’s interesting that the tree shows visible signs when it’s going to rain.
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December 24, 2014 at 1:16 AM #34047
Dr. Patrick Jones
Homestead InstructorFey wrote:
There’s a guy on eBay in Arizona selling Boswellia plants now. They are very rare and apparently the seeds have only an eight percent germination rate.
Boswellia might do well in your area. It’s kind of a hot desert shrub/tree. Let us know how you do.
Doc
Most of our land here is rainforest but I’ve got a side of a hill that’s rocky. It takes a frost too. I read on some other forums that some people are getting them to germinate (one guy had 3 out of 100 seeds) but they dampened off and died. There aren’t any plants for sale here but I might give the seeds a go.
I liked the article that IdahoHerbalist put in…..it’s interesting that the tree shows visible signs when it’s going to rain.
For some reason I thought you were in the desert part of Oz. Rain forest is fun.
🙂 Doc
Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.
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December 28, 2014 at 11:32 PM #34051
Fey
This was written by someone on Herbs2000.com about Turmeric. Very interesting and could give a lot of people hope. After what IdahoHerbalist said about his friend suggesting it to him for digestive problems, it seems like it’s good from top to bottom. (pardon the pun 😛 )
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Hello, I would like to speak about this fantastic herb; I hope a lot of people will follow what I am going to explain.
I have been diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis 1.5 years ago, I was in a very bad state, ended up in the hospital with terrible bleedings, I left my job, my house, and moved to another country thinking my life would get better… a few weeks after my move, my problem restarted, I was taking so many tablets to turn down my immune system, I was full of spots, pain in my belly, it was just a nightmare till a nutritionist told my dad about the value of turmeric…
I also forgot to tell you I was an asthmatic, and due to the infection spreading everywhere in my belly I also had joint pains in my legs and groins.
This person said to take 2t tea spoons of turmeric in hot milk with 1/4 spoon of black pepper (this mix will multiply the turmeric effect by 150% due to a chemical reaction between both), my asthma went in 2 days, I was shocked, I was on Ventoline all the time….in the bin now, my colitis has healed alone and extremely quickly, I just could not believe this, it was impossible for me to see a such change so quickly in my health in general.
After testing this remedy for now 10 months, I can say that my health is back to when I was 20 years old (I am 30), I feel great, I can eat anything I like, no more IBS, no more asthma, no more belly pain after certain foods, I take turmeric everyday when I wake up on an empty stomach, it is very easy to know the right dosage for you, do this simple test:
If 2 tea spoons are too much for you, you will get diarrhea, just put a tiny bit less next time.
I have to say, pharmaceutical companies are making a lot of money by selling drugs to heal you but what you don’t know is that none of these tablets are needed most of the time, just keep a good diet and take your turmeric everyday.
I have also heard that turmeric was very powerful to treat swine flu, I can believe this because my lungs are now very well and free from asthma.
Me: I wonder if it has to be taken in milk?
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December 29, 2014 at 12:04 AM #34052
IdahoHerbalist
I am guessing NO on the milk. That is most likely just to smooth out the turmeric and the black pepper.
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January 15, 2015 at 4:49 AM #34231
IdahoHerbalist
Had an upset stomach last night. Similar to the symptoms described earlier: acid reflux like. I also had indigestion from eating too much.
Dosed up some turmeric. The dandelion and parsley called out to me as well. Slept just fine.
I will dose the turmeric again tonight and for a few more days.
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March 24, 2015 at 12:50 AM #34393
Laura L. Bergeson
StudentI make a tea most afternoons that has a teaspoon of turmeric powder, 1/4 tsp. of black pepper, 1 tsp. of slippery elm powder, 1 tsp of coconut oil, 1 heaping teaspoon of carob powder and about 1/2 tsp. of raw green stevia powder. I add hot water and let it sit for 5 minutes then drink it. The coconut oil is supposed to enhance curcurmin absorption also, along with the black pepper. Tastes pretty good as well! That is our pick -me -up at around 4:00.
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