Worming pregnant does

[caprinegal]

I plan to worm my goats with the following blend: Barberry, Cascara, Garlic, Milk Thistle, Sage, Slippery Elm, Cloves, Goldenseal, Chaparral and Juniper Berry. The does are 1 month pregnant. Are there any contraindications for pregnant does? Thank you.

[Dr. Patrick JonesHomestead Instructor]

Yeah, wait until after they kid. Most of those herbs will cause abortion (which makes goat owners grumpy).

Doc

Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

[caprinegal]

Thanks for the heads up…I chose NOT to worm them with the herbs because I knew there are issues for pregnant women with some of the herbs…I wasn’t willing to take a chance. I will wait until after they kid to proceed with the herbs. I really dislike drenching them with topical cattle wormers.

[alleycat]

What herbs could be used for deworming pregnant Does that won’t cause them to abort? I’ve seen some that use Worm Wood for a short term thing, Garlic, DE (diatomaceous earth) & tons others.

I have some cows in with my 10 goats, so something easy (for me) that’s safe for them to all consume. :poke:

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And are any of the herbs safe for them to eat on a regular basis? (Like if they were growing in their pastures).

[Laurie]

We used huge bucket fulls of broadleaf plantain for our young colts. We fed them all they could eat for 2 weeks. They no longer wanted it after that and from what we found, no longer needed any at that point. It did wonders. I am not a vet and don’t own goats, but my understanding is that plantain should be fully safe & nutritious to boot.

I know oregano & thyme are 2 other herbs that kill specific types of worms. I have these and a couple other herbs written down that kill hookworms, tapeworms, etc.

[alleycat]

Thanks Laurie,

They have broadleaf & the skinny leaf Plantain in their fields, they also have Mullein. We have horses too & they’ll (or 1) eat a little Mullein along with the plantain. The horses have chamomile & one other herb (forget the name) in their field, they don’t bother with it. Oddly enough, I think its my mare, but one of them will eat Thistle (& off hand don’t know which one, but the previous owners seemed to like their thistle, never seen such an invasion of it on a field that’s used). They also love the Russian Olive tree’s (don’t know if there’s any medicinal benefit, but they help kill/control it). My mare ate a bunch of cat tails that we had at our old place & Burdock, but she must have got whatever she needed as she didn’t eat anymore cat tails (which wiped out most of them to where they didn’t regrow) she nibbled on the burdock, but mainly seemed to use the sticker part as a way to do new hair/tail styles on her own LOL

I was just curious on the herbs used to deworm as I wanted to add some different forage options that’s safe for the goats, cows, pigs & horse to eat. To improve their diets naturally & stay away from the chemicals as much as possible.

Thanks for your help

Alli :thumb: 🙂

[Dr. Patrick JonesHomestead Instructor]

Mullien & Plantain

Should be safe for pregnant does

Don't use herbs or combine herbs with medications or use them during lactation or pregnancy without talking with your healthcare provider.

[alleycat]

🙂

[NikkyStudent]

we used diatomaceous earth for our sheep we mixed it with their salt and with their grain when they got it. never had aproblem with worms again and the twins all came out healthy and grew in to healthy lambs we also use it for our horses when we give them their herbal supplements

[alleycat]

Wildfirmed wrote: we used diatomaceous earth for our sheep we mixed it with their salt and with their grain when they got it. never had aproblem with worms again and the twins all came out healthy and grew in to healthy lambs we also use it for our horses when we give them their herbal supplements

Thanks. Our goat’s have the Red Mineral/Salt block & a Selenium block, haven’t given them any loose minerals. They rarely ate it & would “blow”(snort/sneeze) it out of their grain as much as they could or wouldn’t eat any more grain. But the block, they love. Selenium, not so much.

What do you give to your horses? My mare hates the paste, I end up wearing most of it. My senior gelding he takes it but wipes a lot on me. :o) So, they don’t get it frequently (cause as much as I love Apples, I just don’t want to be dewormed LOL).

And my mare doesn’t need any extra feed (she’s an air fern), my gelding though…..I could do the DE & grain for him, no problems.

My goat’s, I hate deworming them when they’ve kidded, because we normally drink their milk, but I always worry that even though there’s a period to wait, is it really long enough :o)

But does anyone alternate DE with something else? Or does it get rid of all the worms/parasites?

Thanks

Alli 🙄

[NikkyStudent]

we went with the loose salt because with the blocks the sheep tried to eat it instead of lick it and they wear down thier teeth to much so we mixed it in the salt

we give our horses diatomaceous earth only as a wormer you can mix it in peanut butter or you can mix it with rehydrated beetpulp

Ya i don’t like being dewormed by apple flavored paste either LOL 😛 also you could make “treats” for your horse with shredded carrots and apples and mix with ground oats and add the diatomaceous earth even add chopped plantain and ground chia seed. then dry

we have never alternated with any wormer and when we first got one of our sheep he was full of worms the vet checked him later after he’d been eating the diatomaceous earth and got a clear bill of health hope that helps

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